For MV users, why do you hold this stance?

Jim Ward sez:

'Cept for one minor, but very relevant detail; how many "MV ONLY" posters have you seen?

In fact, the only posts I've seen by MV'ers indicate that all are perfectly willing to accept, and in some cases even prefer, the KJV, so your point is "pointless"! Please list some of those facts that "-clearly indicate-" your assertions!

Jim Ward further sez:

Haven't seen one post (show me if I've missed it) that shows MV'ers limiting God to the MV's. (I'm assuming that this is what you are referencing with "--something that his/her finite mind can understand--"; if something else, please verify.)

Jim Ward specifically sez:

Please forgive me if I'm misreadingyour statement (hope so!), but are you stating that those who aren't KJV ONLY's need a special dispensation of grace/tolerence due to a lower mental capacity as compared to the ONLY'S?

robycop3 sez:

This quote seems to be so obvious as to it's intent and premise, as to be un-questioned, but apparently many people try to read between the lines when there "ain't no between the lines". Read it for what it says, not what you wish/want it to say!

 

Jim Ward:Except who is it that is really trying to limit God? is it the Bible believer who accept that God's ways are not our ways nor His thoughts our thoughts, or is it the mv lover who keeps trying to limit God to something that his/her finite mind can understand?

No, that would be the KJVO. He/she simply doesn't wanna come to grips with the fact that there's NO RESTRICTING GOD in how He chooses to present His word, believing He only does it according to his/her flawed view. You prove it yourself with your above words, Jim. You reming us God's ways, thoughts, etc. are much greater than ours, while at the same time, in your words below, try to say God is limited. Speaking of DOUBLE TALK...

the facts clearly indicate that it is those who "defend" the plethora of mv's that are trying to limit God and keep Him in their tiny man-made boxes, rather then letting Him be God Almighty.

No, the facts indicate God has presented His word in English exactly as He has chosen, in a variety of versions, for at least 500 years. The proof is the existence of all those versions. Either God preserved His word in English in this manner, in these versions, or He didn't preserve it at all. He does nothing halfway. I 100% believe He HAS preserved it as HE chose, in a manner obvious to anyone who studies the history of the Bible in English, NOT as the Onlyists try to tell us, in only one version, this myth based upon a false, man-made , 20th century doctrine which ignores over 1500 years of Church history. I know Uhdum started this thread seeking the various answers that each of us who are not KJVO may provide, but you who claim to be KJVO are providing us with more and more fodder while shooting holes in the hull of your own boat with such duplicitous statements as those above, acknowledging God is almighty but yet trying to limit Him by excluding all the BVs He's provided in English but your fave one. THAT is the tiny box with which you wish to saddle US, while in truth, the restrictions are attempted by the KJVO.

Jim, there's a thread asking why the KJVO holds his/her theory, as well as one which asks by WHOSE AUTHORITY the KJVO holds it. Care to give'em a shot?

 

Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

I do not know if any of you are aware of "gnostism" but the comments I see expressed here are mirroring the very same thing they have said: "DON'T PUT GOD IN A BOX" (gnostics) - "YOU ARE PUTTING LIMITS/RESTRICTIONS UPON GOD" (mv camp). Quite an interesting observation.


love in Jesus Christ our Faithful Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

I am not sure what that has to do with gnosticism. Do you know what gnoticism is?

And I am not sure why you are posting in a thread entitled, "For MV users." Are you know an MV user??

 

Uhdum in the thread for KJVOs:
//I have been around the whole "version debate"
since around 2000 and have swayed from several
different positions.//

I was saved in April 1952. That means 58 years
ago next month, i first believed that God raised
Jesus from the dead and first confessed that
Jesus is my Lord. So that day Jesus became my
Savior as well as my Lord.

I had a KJV to read back then. As i grew in
the Lord i memorized a lot of the KJV. Even
today, if i want to use a search engine, i'll
use a KJV search engine, for i'm more likely
to remember the KJV term than the term from
some modern version (MV).

I don't have time in one setting to tell how
i'm a modern version user. But i do know this,
over my 52 years i've used the KJVs (yes, there
are multiple King James Versions that are different)
a lot more than the MVs.

I believe the modern day KJBOism to be a narrow
belief and a distortion of the truth.
The KJBO sees black and white (anybody here
beside me remember when TVs were black and white
only?) but the real world of God's written word
is a very colorful place. To bad the KJBOs have
their halo on too tight, they are missing a lot
of God's best blessings.

 

Michelle:I do not know if any of you are aware of "gnostism" but the comments I see expressed here are mirroring the very same thing they have said: "DON'T PUT GOD IN A BOX" (gnostics) - "YOU ARE PUTTING LIMITS/RESTRICTIONS UPON GOD" (mv camp). Quite an interesting observation.

First, gnosticism is an old quasi-Christian view that salvation is attained by knowledge of the things of the universe, NOT in belief in Jesus as Lord, Savior, and God. it is NOT found in any Scriptural mss whatsoever.

Next, although I respect Jim Ward and support him in many things, consider him a Christian brother, and pray for his success in his ministry, we differ on our views of the KJVO myth. He has this habit of taking anti-Onlyism statements & reversing which side actually made them, I.E. here, he says it's the non-Onlyists who are trying to limit God. WE know the TRUTH is just the opposite. I guess Jim & some other Onlyists use this failed tactic because they have no new material of their own, especially any material which would add the slightest justification for believing the KJVO myth. This is yet another reason to REMAIN anti-Onlyism.

 

Seems the Onlyists provide us with many reasons to also use MVs, kinda like "reverse discrimination". This thread serves as an example.