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Franklin Graham: Satan Behind Virginia Tech Killings

Discussion in '2008 Archive' started by JFox1, Apr 19, 2007.

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  1. JFox1

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    I agree with you. Just how would Graham even know anything like that. You can't blame a devil or demon...only the twisted mind of the killer.
     
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    I agree, but think that Satan has to be pleased with Mr. Cho's work.
     
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    Behind it? Maybe so. He wasn't in front of it, taking bullets for anyone.
     
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    Why would this not be a possibility?

    Some of the things he said, like being burned to death, and other references that cannot be attributed to his life could be part of the demon's past....

    I thought the same thing when I was watching the video.
    I could imagine a demon speaking through him.

    Demons have history, they have the ability to go from one person to another... When one person dies, they seek out others to posess.

    Some of the things Cho said could have been the demon talking about "his" history...

    I see it as a possibility, but we will never know.

    BTW, the link isn't working for me.
     
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    I agree. It can't be dismissed that he was only nuts. He very well could have been possessed.
     
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    For the sake of argument, lest say he was possessed by a demon. If so, would he then be personally responsible for the killings?


    Salty :eek:
     
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    Absolutely. We're responsible for our sin in spite of the fact we are all born with a sin nature and cannot avoid sin.
     
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    Absolutely. A born again, Spirit indwelt believer cannot be possessed by a demon. So, if he was possessed, he was not a believer and will have to stand before God without a Savior and receive the punishment for his sins.
     
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    I'm not sure demon posession can occur in this church age. I believe this guy alone was responsible, he could have repented right up until he blew his own head off.
     
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    Did you listen to the way he talked about Jesus? There were a lot of spiritual stuff in his monlogue.
     
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    He sure wan't possessed by God.
     
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    Satan wants religous people.

    They're easier to misguide than someone who doesn't believe in anything spiritual.
     
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    That is the reasaon why I believe he was more than just nuts. I believe he was controlled by demons. He did not talk like a normal person. There is a lot more of the demonic than a lot of believe think there is. The average Christian is so used to hearing psychologists and medical doctors who claim to have a cure for everything and rule out the demonic. It is doubtful that the average pastor and Christian is able recognize demons.
     
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    But I just want to reiterate that even if he was possesed, he is still responsible for his actions when he stood before God...

    No way can this be used as an reason to excuse his actions...
    There is no excuse for them...
     
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    I'm just curious, why do you think this?
    Where did the demons go that were here when Christ walked the earth?

    If people were possesed back then, what changed?
     
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    Well....ahem.....uh....er.....:tonofbricks:



    I think, right now, that only the Holy Spirit can indwell in people. I know all about the voodoo orgies & animal craziness, I think that falls into the "mob mentality" category, right along with speaking in tongues. People in Christ's time didn't have the Holy Spirit on Earth.

    Remember, in two examples that I can come up with off the top of my head, Satan needed permission to tempt Job, and Christ himself.

    I think this was done by a selfish, hateful, vengeful, proud, & haughty person. Probably a few other biblical adjectives would fit.
     
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    I have had occassion to see some demon possession in action. This guy Cho wasn't possessed.
    He was just plain flipped out.
    They would have found some hints of the occult in his apartment if he were possessed.
    He was a bitter, hate-filled, introverted, individual who feels like the world owed it to him to be good and friendly to him.
    He not only victimized those he murdered and their friends and kin, he also victimized his own family who now have to live with what he has done, and his deed's possible repercussions on them physically.
     
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    How would you explain the examples of demon possession in the book of Acts. Those were definitely not 'pre-cross' episodes. They were definitely post Pentecost so that places them in the church age.

    I think this guy was definitely possessed. Not all possessions are characterized by "occultic" preoccupations. Some are, but I would not say that all are.

    In His service;
    Jim
     
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    I think it is highly possible that he was possessed. We can't know for certain, though.
     
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