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Fred Thompson for President!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by church mouse guy, Sep 9, 2007.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    That is inaccurate. Reagan was not known as The Great Communicator for nothing.
     
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    Ken, do you have any concrete criticism of Fred ?
     
  3. KenH

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    Well, for starters, Thompson supported McCain-Feingold which I oppose. Thompson is a member of the American Enterprise Institute which is the leading think tank pushing the neo-"conservative" foreign policy which I oppose.
     
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    I don't know much about Thompson's positions. Maybe now that he finally entered the race we will find out specifics about how he would govern.

    Do you think he will attempt to present himself as another Reagan?
     
  5. KenH

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    If he does, he will fail in the attempt to do so. Seriously, ya'll should check some videos of his speeches from the past few months - provided you can stay awake.
     
  6. KenH

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    What is the problem with AEI?

    Ken, I agree with you on McCain-Feingold as a worthless idea and I hope that it is repealed. I think that a fool should be allowed to give as much money as he wants to a politician or a party; afterall, a fool can spend all he wants in Las Vegas....

    What is the problem with AEI? I hardly think that they are neo-cons since they have been around since 1943. Here is their link:

    http://www.aei.org/
     
  8. KenH

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    Why would age interfere with an institution adopting different policies?

    The Democrats used to be for small government in the 1800s and the Republicans were for big government. Then the Democrats starting favoring big government and the Republicans started favoring small government. Now they both favor big government.
     
  9. church mouse guy

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    What is the problem with AEI?

    I still do not understand what the specific problem is with AEI and Thompson's connection to them. To me their mission statement seems okay and they must be just another Washington Think Tank. We had the Hudson Institute in Indianapolis during the 1980s but they finally moved back East. Of course the best one seems to be the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

    http://www.aei.org/

    http://www.hoover.org/
     
  10. KenH

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    Hoover is very good. Not quite as good as Cato(www.cato.org) but an excellent institution.

    Look beyond AEI's mission statement and look at what policies they have been advocating during the 2000's.
     
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    Fred Thompson does not have the health to be President he does not look good and you must have the health for the long haul.

    His wife seems to be competing for the Playboy look and Fred apparently gave counsel to the Lockerbie terrorist. Not good.

    Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee seem to me have not compromised a thing and yet they get no respect which is a shame.

    I have noticed lately the Republican power brokers are trying to portray Ron Paul as nuts which is what they did to MCcain. I think that is un Godly to do that to a person with all the money in the world at their disposal.

    Ron, Mike and Sam deserve better and they stick to their guns and do not flip flop like the others.
     
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    David Gergen notes correctly that he did not achieve this until deep into his campaign at best, and most argue that he achieved this in his first term. Remember that I said his criticisms came during his first campaign.

    A lot of the so-called exposes about Fred's lack of conservatism have been debunked.

    I agree that Thompson's support of McCain-Feingold is troubling. I wish he'd come out and say he was wrong.
     
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    Thompson Linked to Work for Libyans
    By JO BECKER
    A little over three years after Pan Am Flight 103 blew up over Lockerbie, Scotland, Fred D. Thompson provided advice to a colleague about one of his law firm’s new clients: The man representing the two Libyan intelligence officials charged in the terrorist bombing.

    The colleague, John Culver, a partner at the Washington firm of Arent Fox Kintner Plotkin & Kahn began advising the two suspects’ Libyan lawyer in February 1992. Mr. Thompson, according to a memorandum from that era written by his secretary, held “discussions with Culver re: Libya” that same month.

    At the time, Libya was facing international outrage for refusing to comply with a United Nations demand that the two suspects be extradited to the West for trial in the 1988 bombing, which killed 270 people. Revelations that American firms were representing Libyan interests provoked a furor among the Pan Am victims’ families. Some law firms refused to represent the country or the suspects, while others withdrew.

    The involvement of Mr. Thompson, who worked part-time for Arent Fox as a lawyer and lobbyist from 1991 until shortly before his election to the Senate in 1994, never became public. But Arent Fox’s chairman, Marc L. Fleischaker, confirmed that Mr. Thompson, who is now seeking the Republican presidential nomination, briefly provided Mr. Culver with advice about the suspects’ case, billing the firm for 3.3 hours of his time.

    The firm was hired to provide guidance on the tense questions surrounding where the two men should be tried, Mr. Fleischaker said, and Mr. Thompson’s background as a former prosecutor, as well as his government relations experience — he had close ties to senior officials in the first Bush administration — “gave him insight on jurisdictional issues such as that.”

    I think this is shameful and he should drop out and today he hinted that Bin Laden should have due process, I think he is nuts to suggest this. He and his Playboy dress up doll wife will never get my vote.

    Fred Thompson is flawed and people need to understand his health is miserable for a long haul . Simply put he does not have what it takes.
     
  14. KenH

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    Sorry, Tom, but you are just plum wrong on this. Reagan was a noted communicator in the 1960s and 1970s. Remember he almost won the 1976 GOP nomination and gave what was undoubtedly the best speech at that year's GOP convention.
     
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    Please specify what your complaint is.

    I really don't know what your complaint is about AEI because you so far have not given me any specific details about what is wrong with anything that they have done or have not done.

    As for the Cato Institute, they are outside of the boundaries of the GOP because they are Libertarian, which is another political party. Fred Thompson is running in the GOP and he must be doing quite well considering all of the negative remarks being made about him and his wife here on the Baptist Board.
     
  17. KenH

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    1) TO: My Fellow Neoconservatives
    FROM: Joshua Muravchik
    RE: How to Save the Neocons


    We neoconservatives have been through a startling few years.

    Joshua Muravchik is a resident scholar at AEI.

    - www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.25086/pub_detail.asp


    2) Actually, Cato is "small l" libertarian. It generally sides with the Republicans when the Republicans do occasionally advocate limited government.

    Think tanks are tax-exempt and cannot engage in party politics as such.
     
  18. church mouse guy

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    What conclusions am I supposed to reach?

    What conclusions am I supposed to reach? I asked you for specific details about AEI and all you did was link an article by one guy who worked there. So what?

    I don't see anything wrong with AEI. It seems like a minor organization dating to World War II in 1943.

    I don't see anything wrong with Fred Thompson for President of the USA. He has a conservative social policy and a conservative foreign policy. He should please the mainline GOP. He has a good chance of winning because he should carry the South in the election.

    http://www.fred08.com/
     
  19. KenH

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    And be crushed by Hillary Clinton in the general election. But Thompson won't win the GOP nomination. No, cmg, Giuliani will be your GOP standardbearer.

    Then, watcha gonna do, cmg, when the Mayor of 9/11 is running wild all over you!? :laugh:
     
  20. church mouse guy

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    Be serious, Ken

    Be serious, Ken. Your predictions are your own as far as I can tell since you don't link them or footnote them. I think that Rudy is in trouble in the South and perhaps the Midwest in the GOP primary. As for Hillary's being elected, I only agree that she is the likely Democrat nominee but she is so strident and bitter that I think that she will have trouble winning. So I think that the GOP has a chance. Remember Lincoln looked defeated until the Union Army won some victories just before the election. If we have a military victory, then the GOP will look a lot better.
     
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