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Free Love and Strict Diets

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by swaimj, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. donnA

    donnA Active Member

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    Thank God you don't eat my food, becasue you'd go hungry, I would refuse to feed you. No one who attacks my cooking eats in my house.
    I asked you questions, please answer them, unless you aren't as moral as you try to tell us you are.
     
  2. Marcia

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    God didn't give anyone meat in the Garden. I am not saying it is sinful to eat meat, just that all death comes from sin, including animals killing each other and man killing animals and animals killing men and men killing men.

    You don't think we'll be killing and eating animals in heaven, do you? Is 11 presents a picture of a child with a serpent and a wolf and lamb, lion and calf, etc. getting along.
     
  3. donnA

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    We don't live in the garden Marcia. Makes a difference.
    Nothing in scripture supports not eating meat for this reason, especially when God gave it to man to eat.
     
  4. donnA

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    Questions are right here in this thread.
    and your calling me ignorant, humm
     
  5. Frogman

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    I think we could really take 'em...

    This is from a post in this thread:

    I really think we could take these guys...:thumbsup:

    But on the seriously, I don't think it is anyone's business what others eat, nor what they drink, nor what they think, nor what they believe, nor what they wear,...hey, we could close the BB and all our churches:tonofbricks:

    Come on folks, I like banannas, the real problem is sin, my problem (example here) is I don't want someone else telling me what sin is or is not. I believe the body is a temple, but I believe the greater context of that is the church, my body is dying because of sin anyway, is this license to abuse my body?, NO!

    I think we need to vote for more liberals, we need more rainbow stew and free bubble-up...:wavey:

    Remember, patience is a virtue, gotta go, Kelly's making red-eye gravy...:love2:

    bro. Dallas
     
  6. Frogman

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    Dear Corndoggy,
    Please choose your words more wisely.

    Dear Donna,
    Please do not be so easily offended. I do not think the context of corndoggy's post shows anyone is being called ignorant.

    I for one will admit ignorance on many things that are being brought up in regards to these things. Now, I will admit my stupidity, I don't give much thought to this because I live in a nation where no one is allowed to fail, it is no wonder all the world despises us.

    I disagree with the issue(s) of eating brought out by corndoggy, I agree the overwhelming lax attitude toward sex is appaling; What amazes me more than anything is that research shows we remember only 10% of what we hear, this equates to very little Biblical knowledge. In past times people gathered from miles around for hours and sometime days to hear the word of God, we have some serious distractions going on, and I am talking about the people of God here, not the 'lost', I wouldn't expect them to gather as such, but I remember reading of a man falling asleep as Paul preached up into the night, this man fail from the balcony and died, now, I am not saying we should do this, but I also remember reading of J.R. Graves speaking at a church in Nashville during an associational 'convention' and folks leaving the convention to hear him, and when after three hours he tried to close, they begged him to continue...amazing...ain't it.

    bro. Dallas
     
  7. Marcia

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    I know we don't live in the Garden now, but the only point I made that seems to have caused all this fuss is that one day we will be a restored Garden and there will be no meat. I was making a joke about being ahead of the game.

    Of course, there are terrible conditions in some of the factory farming that I don't think God likes since he never teaches it's okay to be cruel to animals. I don't mean eating them - I mean inhumane conditions.

    You keep saying God gave man meat. But he didn't, not originally. Why not? Because there was no death. It was not God's desire for man to kill and eat animals just as it was not his desire for man to kill each other (I am not equating them). It's a result of the fall.
     
  8. Magnetic Poles

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    Marcia, while I respect your right to that opinion, I do not share it. Besides, if there is no barbeque in our future, it sure ain't heaven! :laugh:
     
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    I think I made my feelings on meat and organic food clear earlier on this thread. But there is a biblical principle here that we also need to consider and that is what Paul taught in I Cor 8. The issue there, which I am sure most of you remember, was meats offered as sacrifice to idols. Paul basically says, “No it’s not wrong, but if doing this is going to hurt my brother than I don’t want to do it.” (that is the tentmaker paraphrase edition, sorry KJVO folks)

    Now I don’t think there is anything wrong with eating meat or bananas since they have been mentioned. But I also see nothing wrong with maintaining a level of respect for those who disagree with me on this issue.

    I have a close family member who is a vegetarian. I am not going to give up eating meat because of them. But at the same time, when they come to dinner I plan and serve vegetarian choices. Sometimes I also offer meat, knowing they will not eat it, but I always have a vegetarian selection as well. I don’t want to send anyway away hungry and think I would be a bad host if I did not respect their choices.

    There is nothing wrong with respecting other people’s choices even when we disagree.
     
  10. donnA

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    Since he has said it more then once, I disagree with you, he is obviously calling someone ignorant, it he addressed it to me, because I eat food. Apparently he doesn't.


    scripture?

    Gen 9:3
    Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things

    Not to mention the numberous times God told the preists to eat certain parts of the sacrificed animal (meat) in the law, He also told Peter to eat it that certain animals we no longer unclean to him.
    So, apparently, according to your reasoning, God did something wrong here.
     
  11. Frogman

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    Dear Sister Donna,
    Your post from Genesis 9 proves Marcia's point. Genesis 9 is after the fall, this puts the giving of meat after the entrance of sin and the wages of sin, being death. Before this man is given every green herb.

    There is nothing wrong with eating meat; I do think there are too many preservatives in it today, there are reasons for that which the consumer demands, though perhaps indirectly.

    I will restate: I do not think corndoggy is particularly calling you ignorant.

    I do not think you are ignorant.

    For the record however I would dare to say that many on the BB think I am. Anyway, I will go back and delete the post.

    bro. Dallas
     
  12. Marcia

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    So you think there will be death in heaven (on the new earth?)
     
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    Maybe there will a Star Trek type replicator Then y'all can have any type of food you want. :)
     
  14. Magnetic Poles

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    There may be meat in heaven, but guess where you have to go to get some charcoal ! :eek:
     
  15. blackbird

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    No more death

    No more dying

    The Lion will eat straw(grass, herbs)

    We will eat at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb!!! But what will be the menu??

    Cornbread & Peas
    Corn on the Cob w/butter
    Fried Okra
    Fried Green Tomatoes
    Fried "Bloomin'" Onions

    You know-----"SOUL FOOD!!"

    :godisgood: :love2: :love2:
     
  16. saturneptune

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    The only way there will be death in heaven is if there is eggplant or chitlins on the menu.
     
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    I'll take blackbird's menu here!

    (and agree with SN on the other stuff - gross)
     
  18. donnA

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    Proves what, that we shouldn't eat meat because it's sin, because of the fall. Nonsense, God gave man meat to eat. Did God sin? Did God tell man to sin? We can not use this as an excuse, it isn't biblical to do so, unless we accuse God of wrong. A persons choice not to eat meat is their choice, but to use scripture is when it doesn't say what they say it does is wrong, it's twisting scripture.
     
  19. saturneptune

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    Hey, I am always appreciative of a good home cooked meal, and my guess is you are a good cook. So whats for dinner?
     
  20. Marcia

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    DonnA, I have to wonder if you've read anything I've said here. Where did I say eating meat was sin? I said it comes as a result of the Fall - all death comes as a result of the Fall. Our death is a result of the Fall.

    Where did I twist scripture??

    Sin brought death. Man did not eat meat until after the Flood; man did not eat meat before sin. Man will not eat meat in heaven. We know this because death will be thrown into the lake of fire as the "last enemy." I am using scripture, not twisting it.
     
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