Full-Preterism/Hyper-Preterism: A Damnable Heresy

As soon as you answer mine. Don't demand answers when you refuse to answer questions posed at you.

 

I am not familiar with the Preterist view, but after some reading, this statement is exactly what I thought to myself. There is no hope. I feel despair at the thought that Jesus has already returned. Although I don't believe it's true because there are too many scriptures to the contrary.


Act 1:9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
Act 1:10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,
Act 1:11 who also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven."

How does the Preterist square this Scripture with the belief that Jesus has already come, but not in physical form?

 

From a post in the other thread:

 

Christ DIED for our sins. He ROSE AGAIN the third day. If Christ be preached that he ROSE FROM THE DEAD, how say some among you that there is no RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD? Christ is RISEN FROM THE DEAD, the firstfuits of them that slept. By man came DEATH; By man came the RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD. The last enemy is DEATH.

The only way to wrest what Scripture teaches concerning the resurrection of the dead is to redefine "death." That is precisely what Preterists have done.

 

I read the Preterist Theory one evening. I read the Newspaper next morning. I no longer believed the Preterist Theory had any meaning. Satan is NOT bound, he is going around like a Roaring Lion devouring folks here and there.

Titus 2:13 (Geneva Bible):
Looking for that blessed hope, and appearing of that glorie of that mightie God, and of our Sauiour Iesus Christ,

Two things we look for;

1. that blessed hope (the pre-tribulation gathering of the saints
2. that appearing of the Glory of God in our Savior Messiah Jesus
(to whip the Devil & the devil's crowd)

(The non-saved are NOT looking forward to the Lord's coming - they'll be zapped.)

 

Any student of the Bible would only need an evening to determine that preterism is heretical. It does not take weeks or months of study to realize a false doctrine. Your reply to Ed is demeaning and insinuates that he is ignorant for his belief. On the contrary, Ed is rather intelligent and was able to debunk an heretical doctrine with little effort.

You know, if someone tried to pay me with a six dollar bill, it wouldn't take very much thought to determine that bill was fake. The same is true of preterism, it does not take time and study to determine those teachings to be false.

 

But it wasn't until he read the newspaper the next day did he discover preterism was wrong. Why? Because dispies use newspaper exegesis when it comes to eschatology. Read any dispie throughout the years, everything happening in the world at that time somehow was fulfilling prophecy. Sorry you take the same view. You use the NY Times, I'll use the Bible.

 

We are commanded by the Lord to watch and be ready. Looking at current events demonstrates the condition of society. In each generation, there are types of anti-Christ and conditions that prove society falls further and further into debauchery. Newspaper exegesis teaches us that man is sick and in need of divine intervention. As we look at current events, we hope that our Lord will soon return, just as godly men in each generation. To believe that our society is advancing morally, is to be blinded spiritually.

I am curious, since you must spiritualize future events, do you also spiritualize past events? If the thousand year reign of Christ is not literal, then perhaps the rest of scripture. Do you believe the creation was metaphorical, along with the flood, and the exodus, the judges, the kings, and the life of Christ? If not, then how do you determine which parts are to be spiritualized and which parts are to be taken literally?

Your practice of casting ignorance on those who disagree with your view is a weak tactic that demonstrates immaturity in your ability to defend your doctrine. The Bible is my final authority in all matters of faith and practice. I do not read the New York Times, but I am aware of the debased condition of our world. I am looking for that blessed hope, earnestly contending for the faith.

 

Amen, Brother Rdwhite -- Preach it! :thumbs:

If you happen to have two of those 6$ bills, I'll trade you my 12$ bill for 'um. (there will be slight fee for handling & shipping, of course )

There are several modes to arguing around here. The most productive is to assume that a large majority (90% to 95%) of the readers are well educated, friendly folk (male and female) who are actually interested in Spiritual Growth. If one does not assume that, one will show it in their writing and those 90%-65% will notice it also. I've been studying eschatology for 56 years as a Christian. I might know a thing or two about the subject.

But nevertheless, thank you for your kind words about me. Are you the Rotor Rooter man?

 

Not sure what it proves, but you started the thread and have yet to offer any substance. Why start a thread like this if you are then unwilling to engage in it? Ed, though I disagree with him on this topic, will at least use scripture to support his beliefs and defend his positions. I get frustrated at those who start or jump into a thread and offer nothing in defense of their view. Your reply demonstrates my point.:laugh:

 

Grasshopper,

Why not give us a definition of the resurrection of the dead?

 

I did some reading on Preterism and what I found was that this belief states that all prophecies (or most) have already been fulfilled. The rapture has taken place, the judgment has taken place and Satan has been crushed. I obviously missed the judgment because I can't recall facing Christ. I think that is something I would probably remember.

So my question is, what is next? If everything has been fulfilled, what is this age that we're living in now?


Maybe to my own embarrassment, I hadn't heard of this belief until recently. It never occurred to me that Jesus had already returned.