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Featured Fundamentalist Baptist John Roach Straton

Discussion in 'Baptist History' started by rlvaughn, Feb 16, 2021.

  1. rlvaughn

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    John Roach Straton, pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in New York City, was a fierce fundamentalist Baptist leader of the first quarter of the 20th century. I was quite surprised by this bit of his history of which I knew nothing.

    The Unlikely Argument of a Baptist Fundamentalist: John Roach Straton’s Defense of Women in the Pulpit.

     
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    Almost exactly a century ago:

    New York Tribune, Feb. 19, 1921, p.

    "CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH
    West 57th St., bet. 6th and 7th Aves.

    Rev. JOHN ROACH STRATON, Pastor.
    Miss Amy Lee Stockton will speak at both
    morning and evening services."

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    I found one revival mentioned in New York in 1920 which included speakers Straton, Amy Lee Stockton, and A. C. Dixon, another prominent fundamentalist. Apparently Stockton was a Baptist (like Straton and Dixon). At least she was a graduate of Northern Baptist Seminary of Chicago.

    Oddly, Uldine Utley was a disciple of Aimee Semple McPherson -- though she was eventually ordained by the Methodists.
     
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    Saskatoon Daily Star, Saturday, December 4, 1920, p. 10
     
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    History of Northern
     
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    According to Bauder and Delnay in One In Hope and Doctrine, Stockton regularly preached revivals for other notable fundamentalists T. T. Shields, H. H. Savage, J. Frank Norris, and Oliver W. Van Osdel -- one of the founders of the GARBC and pastor of Wealthy Street Baptist Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Van Osdel was followed at Wealthy Street by David Otis Fuller.
     
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    Yes, here she is featured in the paper of Canadian Fundamentalist T.T. Shields:

    Jarvis Street Baptist Church The Gospel Witness April 25, 1929 p. 14 (pdf)

    "For the past month special meetings have been held in the Wealthy Street Baptist Church, of Grand Rapids, Michigan, of which Rev. Dr. Van Osdel is pastor, by Miss Stockton and Miss Gould. A large number have come forward and found Christ."

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    Also favorably reported in the GARBC's paper:

    Baptist Bulletin Nov/Dec 1934, p. 4 (pdf)

    "Miss Stockton with her associate Miss Rita Gould, are enjoying much blessing from the Lord. They are now in Washington D.C., for two meetings; from there they go to California and back to Michigan."

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    You can see across the page in the post above the GARBC commending the Fundamentalist Baptist mission of Lucy Peabody (founder and then chairman of the board of what is now known as ABWE).

    This was 1934!

    It was well into the next century before the Southern Baptist Convention would get a woman chairing the trustee board of Southeastern Seminary (2018!):

    Seminary chairwoman: 'God opens the door' - Baptist Press
     
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    In One In Hope and Doctrine, Bauder and Delnay write about some thinking that Van Osdel's promotion of women preachers (particularly Stockton) was harming the growth and success of the General Association of Regular Baptists. They quote a letter from Harry Hamilton to Van Osdel. Hamilton claims not to be personally bothered by women preachers, but believes it is an issue that could drive a wedge in the Regular Baptist coalition (p. 204).

    The editors of the (Southern) Baptist and Reflector in Nashville were not impressed.

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    Baptist and Reflector, June 2, 1921

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    Baptist and Reflector, March 26, 1931
     
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    Canipe summarizes Straton's argument as follows.
     
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    newspaper article from 1932 states Amy Lee Stockton was returning for the fourth time to Capitol Hill Metropolitan Baptist Church; in 1940 it was noted she was back there to preach for the twelfth time.
     
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    I have in my library:

    Lucy Peabody, A Wider World for Women (Fleming Revell, 1936)

    Amy Lee Stockton, God's Approval of a Woman Preacher (Stockton Gould Evangelistic Campaigns and Bible Conferences, n.d)



    (Lucy Peabody was also welcomed at DC's Capitol Hill Metropolitan Baptist Church)

    Washington Herald, January 09, 1915, p. 5

    "11 a.m., preaching by Mrs. Lucy Waterbury Peabody"
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    Well, I think that first of all we should have a criterion of Truth only in the Word of God, and not in the authority of people from past times.
    Many teachers in the Early Church were wrong and even heretics. For example, Origen or the Cappadocian fathers. We are not obliged to repeat their errors and false teachings.
    Well, Evangelization or Evangelism, it's still not a service in the Church. Outside people who, without faith and trust in God, a Christian woman has the right or even the obligation to preach about Christ, but in a Christian Congregation at a divine service:
    ¹² But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. ¹³ For Adam was first formed, then Eve. ¹⁴ And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. ¹⁵ Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.1 Timothy 2:12-15
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    I have no disagreement with that whatsoever. When I post something in the Baptist History forum, I am dealing with it as history, not as to whether it meets the criterion of truth. I think Jerome and I disagree on women preachers (based on something he wrote above), but that does not keep us from investigating the history of it -- even when found in surprising places.

    By the way, Strannik, welcome to the Baptist Board!
     
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    I find this very interesting...however, I hold to only men have the biblical authority to preach and teach the assembly. Women in the pulpit is not biblical. Just because it was done doesn't mean it was right.
     
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    Reminder, look at the top of the page before posting, it will say whether it is a "Debate Forum" or a "Fellowship Forum".

    This is a Fellowship Forum, not a Debate Forum.
     
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