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Future direction for Ron Paul movement: Alliance with Obama?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Explain why his foreign policy is as you say "naive". It's the same foreign policy advocated by our founding fathers. Strange that you call yourself a "hard core conservative" on one hand and on the other pooh pooh Ron Paul on his traditional conservative ideal of non nation building and non interventionism.

    A hard core conservative nation builder? Talk about representing opposing ideologies and this in the same paragraph even.

    There are few things I agree with lberals on. Ron Paul for president is one. I don't care if the person voting for Ron Paul is liberal, conservative, neoconsevrative or neoliberal we're all in this big corporate government mess together we'll all sink or swim together.

    Divide and conquer is how the establishment has got the better of us in the first place. Don't keep preaching their message for them.

    As a Ron Paul revolutionary I could never support Obama. I want less government not less sovereignty and I certainly do not want a North American Union and from the silence of all the other candidates on this issue I can only conclude that they are all for it. Except for Ron Paul. If you love your country and love liberty support Ron Paul if love the idea of being being told what to do and how to live by transnational bureaucrats and corporations then vote for any other candidate.
     
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  2. Ps104_33

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    Barak Obama getting Ron Pauls votes is something that I am reading more and more as I surf the political blogs on the net. Other than the war in Iraq, these two couldnt be more diametrically opposed. Big government, small government. Free-market Austrian school, Keynsian government run economics. Entitlements out the kazoo, abolish every single government agency that exists. This is obviously nothing more than a protest vote and a bunch of kooks saying if my candidate cant win then its going to be a scorched earth policy. Like when we wouldnt let Sadaam get his hands on the Kuwaiti oil he burned up all the wells on his way back to Bagdhad. If Ron Paul cant be president, then we will just destroy the country by electing someone who will enact economic policies that Ron Paul wouldnt touch with a ten foot pole. You people arent making any sense. In the article below the writer actually suggests that Obama choose Paul as some sort of economic advisor. Sheeeesh!:rolleyes:

    http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/question-when-do-we-as-paul-supporters-switch-to-obama
     
  3. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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  4. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    I've been following Ron Paul a long time and I have never heard him say he wanted to "abolish every single government agency that exists". Isn't that a bit like saying every single muslim wants to kill us because they hate our freedom? But then you probably believe that too.

    Saddam, actually called and asked for permission from the USA to invade Kuwait and it was granted to him. The Bush administration led him to believe he had Bush's blessing before he tried to get his hands on all the kuwaiti oil. So you may want to change your statement to match the facts.

    This doesn't make much sense to me..."If Ron Paul cant be president, then we will just destroy the country by electing someone who will enact economic policies that Ron Paul wouldnt touch with a ten foot pole."

    The country is being destroyed by the people who have been in power in both parties. There may be two parties but there is only one policy. Bring down the USA until it can be comfortably merged with the "new international socialist corporate community". NWO for short. The dems and republicans have passing the ball back and forth working on this merger for decades. Why more people haven't figured that simple truth out is beyond my powers of comprehension honestly.

    Ron Paul is the only candidate on either side that isn't a member of or minion working for the "internationalist community".
     
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