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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by buckster75, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. James Flagg

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    And keep this in mind. If you're playing blackjack, never take the insurance. It's a sucker bet.

    Also never play the green zeroes in roulette. Sure, the payoff is higher, but the odds are just too heavy against the player. You're better off playing a straight red or black bet, as the odds of hitting are about 48%.
     
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    And in love, and as kind as anyone could possibly speak, what part of "the love of money is the root of all evil" is it you don't understand?

    There very well is Scripture to condemn the association of gambling, and the love of money Scripture should be enough for any God-fearing Christian not to even blink when it comes to whether or not gambling is wrong.

    Anything that a man is subdued by, and become subject to, and that man cannot just quit, is an addiction. Define addiction and the things associated with being addicted. Do any of those attributes of addiction offend the Spirit? Yes, all of them. It excercises the deviant,desparate, and evil heart of all men. It excercises the flesh and sows to the flesh, it reaps corruption.
     
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    Then, certainly, you'll be able to provided it, lest you be a legalist.
     
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    Salamander, You are definitely not trying to be loving here. You are being sarcastic and just plain rude.
    It is presumptuous of us to assume that we can draw conclusions about what God thinks about any issue without His exact Words to back it up. We are mere humans in a fallen world. We cannot think his thoughts on our own power.
    Then show it to us! Show us where God says in HIS WORD that it is wrong. My personal opinion is that gambling is a sin. I cannot impose that opinion on anyone else without scripture to back it up. Your statement that
    Doesn't necessarily equal gambing is sin. I know people who view gambling as recreation. They don't see a difference in spending $50 for dinner and a movie and taking $50 to go to the casino. When their $50 is gone, they leave. Whether it takes them one hour or five. they say they aren't doing if for the money, but for fun.

    Do people work at their job for their love of money, or to survive? If they are a work-a-holic I would say it's for their love of money. That brings us back to everything in moderation and that gluttony is a sin...
     
  5. buckster75

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    I want those who think gambling itself is not a sin to think hard about this. (before you tell me I am wrong anyway) If we are but stewards of everything we have then to put something we do not own at risk is a sin.
     
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    waiting on the response about remaining above reproach also.
     
  7. Johnv

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    By that example, investing in the stock market is a sin. So is buying a house in an active real estate market.

    Now, I don't think I can be called unrighteous for my 401k or my so cal condo. Nor will I accuse someone who enjoys playing a few hands of blackjack.
    It first needs to be established that gambling automatically places someone at or below reproach.
     
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    I think the risk might be looked at a lttle differently don't you John?
     
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    buckster, I don't understand...
     
  11. Johnv

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    "Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand."


    I don't see where the issue in this thread is addressed in that verse.
     
  12. buckster75

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    I am asking the question about this so it places them in reproach. The fact that some may doubt it to be ok places them there.
     
  13. Johnv

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    You tell me. You said we shouldn't risk what is not ours. So now you're saying some risk is okay and some is not? That negates your prior post.
     
  14. buckster75

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    I don't think the guy setting up your 401k is going to use the word risk with the same likely hood as the casino. Are you forgeting this is illegal activity in some places?
     
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    People who lost much or all of their money in stocks might agree with you. In fact, a few years ago, my 401k lost about 2/3 of its value.
    Then, like anything else that's subject to regulation, don't do it when and where it's illegal.
     
  16. buckster75

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    I think this is part of why christians every where should beware. But with all the liberals coming out stating just about anything you feel like doing is ok, I guess the responses are expected. The standard is the standard it does not move and is not looking for loopholes if it is not ok for a christian to gamble in Texas then it is not ok for them in any other place.
     
  17. Johnv

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    We need to be aware of legalists who attempt to twist scripture into making something a sin when it does not.
    Typical. You can't make you case with scripture, and you can't make your case with logic. So resort to McCarthyism and wield the phrase "liberal".

    I can never understand why legalism is not considered liberalism, but asking for scriptural support is.
    Since it's illegal to fire a weapon in city limits, should it therefore be a sin to fire a weapon? Since it's illegal for a husband and wife have sex in public, is it a sin to have sex in private? Since it's illegal to park an RV on residential streets, are RV's a sin? Since flying planes over restricted areas is illegal, is flying a sin?
     
  18. buckster75

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    So you are stating the standard is a moving target that God changes His mind if I cross some man made border?
     
  19. buckster75

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    No I weild liberal as something going against God (in this case)
     
  20. Johnv

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    Since you've failed to establish thet gambling is a sin in teh first place, your claim is bogus.

    Since the legality of gambling is a manmade rule, its legality ot illegality has nothing to do with God's mind, and your contention, again, falls flat.

    Since legalism and adding to scripture go against God, then they are examples of liberalism. Since claiming that gambling in scripturally firbidden requires one to add to scripture, the claim is liberalism.
     
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