Gay-rights decision protested at E. Kentucky school

Well, good for them for making their feelings know, I guess. But the ACLU and the school are right on this one.

 

I'm forced to agree with Kelly on this one. Unless the school board has a specific policy that bans groups that discuss topics of a sexual nature, they can't ban a "gay" club any more than they could ban a "straight" club.

My two cents is, if the students object, let them form a "sexual purity until marriage" club. Or a "rights for straight people" club.

[ November 05, 2002, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: Johnv ]

 

Or a pedophile club or a beastiality club...

 

Sure Rev. G - because sex between two consenting adults who love each other and are in a committed relationship is analogous to sex with children or animals. Spare me.

Joshua

P.S. The ignorance and prejudice of these kids makes it abundantly clear that there needs to be a GALA group there.

 

Joshua, How is it that anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant?

I can't speak to beastiality but as far as pedophilia is concerned, most of the young boys who are abused are abused by a man. You can try to twist and distort the truth anyway you want but this is a fact.

As long as groups like NAMBLA, GALA, Act-Up, etc. are out there then the rest of us have a right to be wary of attempts to normalize homosexuality. But more importantly, as long as the Bible condemns it directly, indirectly, and by excluding it from approval, all Christians should resist normalizing it.

Also, even homosexual groups acknowledge that most homosexuals, even those who consider themselves to be in "committed relationships", are very promiscuous.

Finally, abuse is rampant between homosexual partners. I saw a statistic from a mainstream source a few years ago reporting that lesbians were 80 times more likely to be abused by their lovers than heterosexual women.

If your experiences are different then either they aren't the rule or you don't know those people as well as you thought.

 

There's a simple solution to this: get rid of the government monopoly on the educational system. If school choice was an option, these kids could simply find a school that didn't have to bow to the ACLU.

 

Jonathon,

We already have choice. It is called private schools and homeschool education. Let's continue school choice and keep the government out of it by saying no to government vouchers.

Joseph Botwinick

 

I agree as long as I get to keep the part of my tax dollars that would go to educate my kids. I propose that anyone with school age kids should be able to get a state tax credit for the amount that would have been spent on their kid for as long as the kid is in school and passes core testing.

Most people really don't have the freedom to opt out of public schools when they are forced to pay for them anyway.

 

Uh oh! Here we go again....

I wasn't going to post anymore (but changed my mind thanks to some encouraging PMs). So, SheEagle911 is back, like it or not!

And we DO need school vouchers as long as the ACLU and like-minded secular humanists continue to dominate our public educational system and extracurricular activities.

 

Scott, Even if your statistics are accurate, by your same logic we shouldn't encourage hetereosexual marriage because statistics show that better than half of all people who are in heterosexual marriages have had affairs. Is there something inherent in homosexuality that leads people to infidelity? ...especially if they are mega-church pastors?

My experience with the Christian GLBT community is that they are no more prone to promiscuity than the Christian straight community.

Joshua

[ November 07, 2002, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: Rev. Joshua ]

 

Welcome back SheEagle.

We do not need vouchers from the government for three reasons:

1. If the government funds it, they will control it.

2. I don't want my money paying for a Wiccan or Catholic Private school.

3. It is basically based on the liberal ideology which says we need to depend on Government to take care of us by stealing from everybody to pay for the poor.

If we want vouchers, let the church, through a move of the Holy Spirit fund it of their own volition instead of forcing people to fund stuff they don't believe in, and then won't be able to control.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Perversion is perversion. Period. Sin is sin. Period.

Please, spare us.

 

I agree. But if I don't ask others to pay for my kids then I shouldn't be forced to pay for everyone else's.

That is a very good idea. Know of any churches interested in starting such a program. Can it be done out of a general fund so that donations are deductible?

 

We homeschool too and do not want the government vouchers either, because they would want control too. The government never gives money without wanting some control.
This is wonderful that 420 students stayed home. Praise God for that. Now, if we could just help their parents to keep them home for good, now that would be a statement!

HCL

[ November 07, 2002, 11:26 AM: Message edited by: Headcoveredlady ]

 

Hey, lots of people around here walk or bike wherever they go. So where's their tax credit for not using the roads or even public transit (which is incredibly expensive)? I don't have kids. Where's my tax credit for paying for everyone else's kids to go to school?

Hence the use tax idea. We all get what we pay for, and don't pay for stuff we don't use. It'd take a while to put into full effect, but it'd stop this incessant arguing about it.

But the point of this thread was about the GSA at this school. In the secular world, consensuality is the issue, which is what creates the difference between pedophila and homosexuality, or bestiality and homosexuality. We don't give children the right to consent to sex, and we don't know enough about non-human animals to know what their consent to sex with a human would sound like. So, when it comes to government intervention, consensual human affairs are not their business. Period.

Unless the school wants to ban all extra-curricular clubs that are not directly related to a school program, then there's no problem with this club. Of course, they may be able to ban clubs that are about illegal activities. But still, sexuality isn't about sex, so the GSA would still be able to function. I don't know of any state that has laws against homosexuality. Just sodomy.

 

Unfortunately, no, not right now. Unfortunately, most Christians are so busy looking to the government for their vouchers instead of taking the intiative themselves. Most stuff like this would start small as a grassroots movement, but will grow with success. We need to pray for revival in our churches to convict our churches of the need. If the CP can fund schools and mission work in other countries, Seminaries, and Colleges in America, surely we can pull our resources together and fund vouchers for education for kids. And yes, donations to private charitable organizations would certainly be deductable. But even if it weren't, it would still be worth funding to keep the government out of it.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Hi everyone;
I'm new here,and all I can say is thank God for those who do not want to put up with sin. This particular sin is not only a sin against God, but a crime againse nature.God didn't create Homosexuality, man did that.It would be a wise thing for those who have children to protect them from exposure of this kind of thing.Protect them from seeing it, and hearing about it.
romanbear
Peace

 

I can't understand how those two words can be used together Christian and GLBT ( I assume that stands for Gay, lesbian,bisexual and transgender)
You know it sounds a little cleaner by saying GLBT.
Murph

 

Not a valid comparison. You are required to send kids to school. None of the activities you mention are mandated by law.

I have no problem following this logic its conclusion... no government involvement in education.

Good by me.