General Petraeus

You are probably right, but at points in history, there are events so shocking to an even asleep at the wheel public, that they are jolted out of their zone of comfort and do something about it. Two signs of an unhealthy nation is self centeredness and an invincible comfort zone. When we start being concerned about others more than we are the amount of time we have to spend in the McDonalds drive through, then we will have made progress.

 

I agree but we've got about seventy years of corporate programing to overcome before that can even begin to happen.

 

And the happy meal! dont forget about that.:smilewinkgrin:

 

The little black haired woman on Fox [not Jennifer Griffith but her counter part for intelligence] reported the weapons thing several weeks ago. She indicated that perhaps Turkey was involved and that was the reason Stevens was talking o the Turkish ambassador.

 

Only if revelation threaten Obamma!

 

poncho

There is something really rotten going on in this country, especially DC. I suspect that the "boss man" is Obamma!

 

Is There Treason Abroad?

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/pet.../2012/11/11/id/463697?s=al&promo_code=10AA5-1

 

The more we learn the worse this entire mess gets. If the truth is ever name then obamma will be the top dog!

 

There is something really rotten going on OR you'll get no argument from me about that but Obama is not the "boss man" he's just middle management.

The real bosses live at 740 Park Ave in NYC and on Threadneedle Street in London. I wonder if David Petraeus is still a big supporter of the "patriot act" now that it was used to bring him down?

FBI's abuse of the surveillance state is the real scandal needing investigation

That the stars of America's national security establishment are being devoured by out-of-control surveillance is a form of sweet justice

The Petraeus scandal is receiving intense media scrutiny obviously due to its salacious aspects, leaving one, as always, to fantasize about what a stellar press corps we would have if they devoted a tiny fraction of this energy to dissecting non-sex political scandals (this unintentionally amusing New York Times headline from this morning - "Concern Grows Over Top Military Officers' Ethics" - illustrates that point: with all the crimes committed by the US military over the last decade and long before, it's only adultery that causes "concern" over their "ethics"). Nonetheless, several of the emerging revelations are genuinely valuable, particularly those involving the conduct of the FBI and the reach of the US surveillance state.

As is now widely reported, the FBI investigation began when Jill Kelley - a Tampa socialite friendly with Petraeus (and apparently very friendly with Gen. John Allen, the four-star U.S. commander of the war in Afghanistan) - received a half-dozen or so anonymous emails that she found vaguely threatening. She then informed a friend of hers who was an FBI agent, and a major FBI investigation was then launched that set out to determine the identity of the anonymous emailer.

That is the first disturbing fact: it appears that the FBI not only devoted substantial resources, but also engaged in highly invasive surveillance, for no reason other than to do a personal favor for a friend of one of its agents, to find out who was very mildly harassing her by email. The emails Kelley received were, as the Daily Beast reports, quite banal and clearly not an event that warranted an FBI investigation:

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Many aspects of this mess are unknown. One does not lose their job or office for an affair. That is between the General, his wife and the Lord. Something is rotten in the inner sanctums of government. Clinton was not impeached for the affair, but for lying about it under oath. This has the feel of treason, espionage, theft of tax dollars, and who knows what else.

Sure Obama knew about it the day after the election. This feels like Watergate unfolding, except much worse. There is a puzzle to be put together of General Alllen, General Petraeus, Libya, emails from several women probably sent over US Government email systems, and other pieces yet unknown. General Allen's arrival in this mess expands it greatly.

It is always the smallest thing that unwinds the whole mess, a slight miscalculation, an unplanned event. A third rate burglary of the Watergate Hotel brought down an entire Presidency. In Clnton's case, the story broke because Lewinsky started confiding in a coworker named Linda Tripp at the Pentagon, which Ms Tripp recorded the conversations.

I am not saying this will bring down the President as in the above cases, but it is certainly possible.

 

The FBI investigation was instigated, supposedly, because of some emails from the mistress, Broadhead, to a family friend, Kelley. Why was Broadhead emailing Kelley. Whatwas in the emails to warrant the start of the investigation. The FBI agent who began the investigation was a friend of Kelley.

This adulterous relationship apparently started in April, 2012 but perhaps earlier. Was someone afraid Petraeus would enter the race for president and he was set up by someone and Broadhead. This entire business stinks. I believe it is much more involved than adultery. May be par of the Benghasi coverup or something even worse.

 

The circumstances of Petraeus's departure from the CIA are a little alarming; you'd rather your chief spy not be reckless. But the circumstances of his arrival at the CIA a year ago were more troubling. Yet no alarm was sounded that was anywhere near as loud as the hubbub surrounding Petraeus now. That's scandalous.

While the fallout from General Petraeus’ supposedly sordid personal life and his alleged failure to remain faithful to his wife will occupy the time and ink of the mainstream media, there should be greater interest on the infidelity of so many powerful men who have succumbed to the siren call of unrestrained power and have abandoned their commitment to due process, the rule of law, and constitutional limits on authority.

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Did the Israeli Lobby Stage a Coup Against the Director of the CIA?

One wonders if Petraeus was set up, like Mordechai Vanunu; only in this case Broadwell may have been a patsy: “On Monday night, F.B.I. agents went to Ms. Broadwell’s home in Charlotte, N.C., and were seen carrying away what several reporters at the scene said were boxes of documents. A law enforcement official said Ms. Broadwell had consented to the search” (NY Times online, Nov. 12).

Her surrender of documents from her house without a search warrant would appall any competent defense attorney. It is the action of a scapegoat, or a person under some type of duress or mind control.

In 2010, General Petraeus fingered the Israeli-Palestine conflict as making life difficult for US troops in the Middle East and Afghanistan. His assessment violated the Israeli lobby’s sacred taboo against any such linkage:

“In March 2010, when Petraeus was still head of the US Central Command, he gave testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee which included this observation about one of the “challenges to security and stability” faced by the United States:

"The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR [Area of Operations]. Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world...’

“Abraham Foxman, National Director of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) was so alarmed he issued a statement condemning Petraeus’ testimony, asserting in part of it: ‘Gen. Petraeus has simply erred in linking the challenges faced by the U.S. and coalition forces in the region to a solution of the Israeli-Arab conflict, and blaming extremist activities on the absence of peace and the perceived U.S. favoritism for Israel. This linkage is dangerous and counterproductive.’

“....Obama appointed Petraeus as CIA director after he made his Senate statement about Israel.”(Source: “When former CIA chief David Petraeus enraged the Israel lobby” http://electronicintifada.net/)

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This has the makings of a web of events that reaches into many areas we are not now aware, far beyond a few affairs, and the connection to Libya. It feels rotten to the core, to me, beyond what has come along in a long time. This is much more sinister than an affair. People do not lose jobs over affairs, they lose money and wives. All I can say is wherever the path leads, I hope Israel, for their sakes, is not involved.

 

There is something very very rotten about this entire mess. I believe what happened in Benghazi has something to do with it. I doubt that Israel is involved simply because Obama and his cabal don't like Israel.

McCain is trying to get a select committee in the Senate to investigate. He won't get it because of the democrats. The House could establish a select committee regardless of democrat whining!

 

On the other hand though Israel doesn't like Obama. Taking down a ranking general would send a pretty strong message of "do it our way or you're next". Just sayin.