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Genesis 6: Prehistoric Mankind = sons of God.

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  1. 4Pillars

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    When Jesus made the creatures, he made them in various "kinds", His kinds. No one knows His classification system except He, Himself. Some theorize that the kinds could be creeping, walking, crawling, flying, etc. kind.

    Micro is Descent with Modification, within their kind. It happens every time a baby is born. Example: Cat's Family - A Lion (male) and a Tiger (female) producing a Giant "LIGER". See link. http://www.liger.org/

    It really amazing how the discovery of Science Today support the TRUTH of the Bible written many centuries ago -- Genesis 6:4 - the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) producing GIANT offsprings - Mighty Men of old, men renown - AFTER their union with the Daughters of Men, as documented in Genesis 6!!!

    On the other hand, Macro-Evolution is a Lie from the pits of Hell and excludes God from His own Creation. No entirely different kinds of species can produce offsprings together and evolve into a new kind of specie.

    False Assumption: Genesis 6 - "Fallen Angels" (?) forming a union with the daughters of men producing offspring of mighty men of old -- now that is based on wild speculation -- which is what macro-evolution is.

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    The giants were not the results of the union of the sons of God with the daughters of men. The result of the union of the daughters of men and sons of God were mighty men... men of renown.

    The giants were there prior to the children of the sons of God and daughters of men.
     
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    Jasher 4:18 (Jasher is an accurate historical writing referred to in both II Samuel and Joshua) states the following about who the "sons of God" most likely were...

    "And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals."
     
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    Genesis 1:21 tells us that every living creature that moveth was created abundantly from the water on Day 5. This included the creation of the sons of God - whom scientist referred at times as prehistoric mankind (Genesis 6:4).

    Genesis 2 tells us of Creatures made from the dust. Some people see this as a contradiction, and falsely assume that God made a boo boo. They are ignorant of the fact that God (Elohim) originally made every Living Creature that moved, from the water, on Day 5.

    The account of the formation of the beasts of the field and fowl of the air, from the Dust, on the 6th Day, is when YHWH or Jesus sqeezed, as a potter would mould clay, and formed living creatures from the dust of the ground. The creatures made from the dust were identical to those made from the water, and could produce offspring with the creatures from the water.

    Of course the first Living Being made from the dust was man. Man was made on the 3rd Day before the plants and herbs, after the rain. Genesis 2:4-7 This gives mankind Preeminence or First Place among all other Living Creatures. Like the animals made from the dust, man also married and produced children with Beings made from the water. That's where Cain's wife came from, and that is who Noah's grandsons married, on this Planet.

    We have the DNA of the sons of God (Prehistoric Mankind) and we also have the Human Intelligence that can ONLY be inherited from Adam, the first Human. Yes, we all descended with modifications from a common ancestor, and his name is Adam.

    God created every living creature that moveth, from the water abanduntly, on the 5th Day, and Jesus produced His Kind from the dust of the ground, on the 6th Day. Today's "Scientists" can't tell us the difference between those creatures made from the water, and those made from the dust. Only Jesus can tell us of His Kinds, which are identical with the Creatures made from the water on the 5th Day.


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    This mixing of dust and water produces mud. Your theology needs to take its place in the archives of man's fallible theory.
     
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    Scripture documents us that the Lord mixed water & dust of the ground to form Adam, do you not believe the Scripture? Read and learn...

    Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, v5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. v6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and WATERED the whole face of the ground. v7 And the LORD God formed man of the DUST of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    Science also agreed that all living creatures comes from the water, don't you? Do you know who's our Master Potter was when we were yet clay / mud?

    ISAIAH 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the CLAY say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

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    Man was formed with the dust of the ground, not mud.

    Man was created on the sixth day, not the third, not the fifth.

    Man was formed from the dust, not mud.
     
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    Gen. 6:1-5 shows the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) married the daughter of man (Adam), and their offspring became MIGHTY MEN of old.

    These men inherited the Human Intelligence of Adam, but were wicked, and unbelieving. Their violent nature caused the destruction of their world. Gen. 6:13

    Gen. 6:4 calls these men GIANTS and MIGHTY MEN of old - 1st world -- and the text also indicates that this union between them and Adam's descendants, would happen again...."AND ALSO AFTER THAT"... is prophecy that the sons of God and the descendants of Adam would also unite here on earth, after their first union of their former world.

    Gen. 10:8 fulfils the prophecy of Gen. 6:4 after Noah arrived on this planet and Cush marries a woman whose ancestors originated in the water. Cush, like Cain, had No one to marry, except the the prehistoric beings or mankind created on the 5th day.

    Gen. 10:8“And Cush begat Nimrod: HE BEGAN TO BE MIGHTY ONE on this earth.

    The result of this union produced Nimrod, who built the 1st Cities of this Earth. History agrees.

    The DNA within all Humans confirms that we descended from a prehistoric woman, who lived some 150 -200K years ago. The Human Intelligence we possess was inherited from Adam.

    The final result of the mixing of Adam's descendants and prehistoric man ALSO produced violent, unbelieving humans of today, and doomed this present world to destruction, as well. ll Peter 3:10

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    Science also agreed that all living creatures comes from the water, don't you? :laugh: nooooooooooooooo

    Standing is right. God created man on day 6. God gave man the command to have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living that moveth upon the earth. The order of creation didn't have anything to do with that.

    God formed man from the "dust" of the ground, Gen.2:7

    First time I ever heard of everything coming from water except from the Godless evolutionest.
     
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    Wrong. Scripture says nothing of "prehistoric mankind", it starts with mankind (Adam). I already gave reference from Jasher, which is reliable seeing the Word of God refers to it, as who the "sons of God" probably are.
    Yes...and they were NOT prehistoric man.
    One word: Garbage.
    One word: Garbage.
    First, "prehistoric" is an oxymoron (with the beginning of history comes time...and there is no "pre" time), and second your extremely flawed theological quasi-alien darwinianism has no place in a believer's life.

    From your profile, and the 100 posts you have been involved in only discussing aliens and darwinianism...my conclusion is you are a troll. :wavey:
     
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    4Pillars, MAN are you living on the edge of night? Where are you getting this stuff? Did you come from another planet or out of the water?:godisgood:
     
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    The text under consideration states,

    "Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

    I see two separate thoughts here:

    1. There were giants in the earth in those days. This is stated as a simple fact.

    2. Later, when the sons of God took wives of the daughters of men and had children by them, these giants became mighty men of renown.

    I've come to the opinion that pre-flood man may have simply been much larger than people today, perhaps twice as tall. I've seen several examples of bones recovered by archaeologists that are shaped like human bones, only too large to be identified as human by modern standards. I've also read reports of much larger than average human skeletons found, though "scientific" journals did not report them, as they conflict with evolution theory.

    Another thing that IMO hints at the possibility that pre-flood man was much larger is wisdom teeth. Today we often need to have them removed to keep them from displacing other teeth, since there's just not enough room in our jaws to accomodate them. In a larger skull, perhaps they would not be a problem.

    Just a thought. Plausible?
     
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    You are correct, it is 2 separate thoughts. There were giants then, there were giants after...and there are giants today. Maybe they were more common pre-flood, as if man could live to be over 900 years old, there is no reason to believe they couldn't have been much taller. Goliath seemed to come from this line.
     
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    webdog,

    Your false accusations are surpassed only by your ability to ambush someone you know nothing about. Do you have anything to say or do you just wish to post ad hominems?

    Tell us your allege knowledge. We have a minute and I promise, I won't laugh that much. :laugh:
     
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    If you haven't figured out, anybody can pull up the threads a BB member has posted to. I see that your 100 consist of only Genesis 1 & 2, Aliens and this thread. I think my analysis is pretty accurate based on these facts.

    FTR, I did have something to say, to which you didn't respond (twice). I take that as a non desire to actually debate or discuss your topic, but to only prosyletize the public with your alienistic-fish darwiniansim.
    Someone with such a minute grasp of Scripture really has no business laughing about anything, particularly with the "theology" you hold to as almost "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" type weirdness.
     
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    Noah brought Adam's Humanity to this Planet of Apes and this changed the Prehistoric into Human.
     
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    AHH...now I remember. You are the one that believes Noah's ark is a space ship :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    I remember talking to somebody about hearing this, but I couldn't recall from where. Thanks for refreshing my memory!
     
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    There is NO Prehistoric---God created man and every "living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so." ... and God formed MAN (NOT APES OR WATER CREATURES) from the "dust of the ground". This was done on the SIXTH day:

    Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

    Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

    Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    Genesis 1:27
    So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    Genesis 1:29
    And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

    Genesis 1:30
    And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

    Genesis 1:31
    And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

    Genesis 2:7
    And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    It seems that you are making up a fairy tale as you go along. Why not take the Bible literally for what it says. You are twisting scriptures to your own destruction:

    2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

    The Greek word for "wrest" is strebloo which means to "twist, torture or pervert".
     
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    The 1st Firmament or Heaven was made on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:6-8 It was formed in the midst or middle of the Water, and Water was above and below it. IOW, the 1st Heaven, was surrounded by water. It was later destroyed, totally and completely, by that same Water, when the "windows of heaven were opened. Gen. 7:11

    Our Heaven or Universe was made on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4-5 The Big Bang happened on the 3rd Day, the same Day Jesus made our Heaven or Kosmos, and also the 3rd Heaven. ll Corinthians 12:2 tells us of the Apostle Paul being taken to the 3rd Heaven.

    Was Paul a Spaceship? Of course not. Neither was the Ark a Scaceship nor Noah a Spaceman. They were brought to this Planet, similar to the way, Paul, the Apostle, was taken to the 3rd Heaven. All Christians will be taken to the 3rd Heaven, at the Rapture. Would you call them a fleet of Spaceships?

    I am very disapointed how biblical ignorant one can be, as a Christian?
     
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    Be careful... three of your fingers are pointing back at yourself.
     
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