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God Bragging on the Eagle

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by rockytopva, May 10, 2020.

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    God replying to the discussion of Job and his friends.,...

    1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
    2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
    3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
    4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
    5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
    6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
    7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? - Job 38

    Along with the discussion God brings up the Eagle....

    27 Doth the eagle mount up at thy command, and make her nest on high?
    28 She dwelleth and abideth on the rock, upon the crag of the rock, and the strong place.
    29 From thence she seeketh the prey, and her eyes behold afar off.
    30 Her young ones also suck up blood: and where the slain are, there is she.- Job 39

    The eyes of the Eagle are very powerful! I can imagine a lot of mental processing for the Eagle to spot prey miles away and then attack using the coordination of the wings and eyesight. I can't imagine such a creature evolved from nature. And a short 4 minute video....

     
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    The eye of a cat. Not as interesting as the eagle, but fascinating all the same. I believe it took some thought to design such an instrument.
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    The eyes of a mantis shrimp. This crustacean has the most complex visual system in the entire animal kingdom. Where humans have three different kinds of photoreceptors that enables us to see in color, the mantis shrimp has up to 16 different kinds, giving them color vision ranging from deep ultraviolet to infrared, as well as the ability to see polarised light, something no other animal is known to do. Obviously someone must have thought it was more important to design this system than it was dealing with humans

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    The eye of a cat. Not as interesting as the eagle, but fascinating all the same. I believe it took some thought to design such an instrument.
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    The cat may not have as sharp an eyesight as the eagle, but she can see in the dark and is equally keen in detecting her pray using her focused hearing and her acute sense of touch and smell. A cat has about twenty-four movable whiskers, in four sets on each upper lip on either side of its nose. These permit the cat to create a three-dimensional map of her surroundings. They aid sensation and navigation by enabling a cat to know that it is near obstacles without needing to see them, just like any disturbance (distraction) in our spiritual man informs us of worldly affections (obstacles) we need to avoid.
     
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    Another interesting fact of the eagle is in that she can build great nests and raise a family from on high.

    27 Doth the eagle mount up at thy command, and make her nest on high? She dwelleth and abideth on the rock, upon the crag of the rock, and the strong place. From thence she seeketh the prey, and her eyes behold afar off. - Job 39:27-29

    As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings... - Deuteronomy 32:11

    While tending to their nesting duties, non-releasable Bald Eagles ‘Franklin’ and ‘Independence,’ cared for by the non-profit American Eagle Foundation (www.eagles.org), recently survived severe storms that passed through the East Tennessee area. “During the high winds and intense thunder showers, I intently watched the eagle nest day and night from a video camera available over the Internet,” said AEF President Al Cecere. “It always amazes me how the parent birds faithfully cover the eggs and young with their body and wings during severe weather, even when chunks of hail are pounding on their backs.” - Bald Eagle Nesting Pair Survives Tornado-like Storms; Egg Hatches – American Eagle Foundation

    The nest of two Milford bald eagles managed to withstand bad weather from earlier this week. The pair had previously lost their nest and one of their eggs in a major windstorm in February. The birds came back and worked to fix up their nest. - Milford bald eagle nest survives high winds

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    The Eagles nest is also another wonder of creation. This nest can withstand hurricane like winds and can be very heavy.

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    Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. - Matthew 10:29

    I had a sparrow build a nest in an outside light fixture and then abandon her little baby chicks. They tried to escape the nest and their dead bodies lie underneath the light fixture. I am going to have to tear the nest down and remove the dead bodies. I will spend the rest of the day grieving and sorrowing the loss of the little ones. Little ones have spirits too and are of interest to the Heavenly Father.
     
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    Now to tackle the issues of evolution...

    Virtue is not knowledge
    Otherwise it could be taught.
    Mass is not knowledge We may develop representations of mass because of what comes through our senses but the mass itself exists independently of our mental knowledge.

    Our mind organizes experiences in different ways. The mind (via the reason) and the senses (via the mass) both make important contributions to consciousness. Immanuel Kant’s reflection on Physics led him to develop a new theory of knowledge that combines rationalism and empiricism into a new synthesis called critical philosophy. Kant agrees with Hume that knowledge begins with experience, but disagrees to the experience sensual limitations. “Though our knowledge begins with experience, it does not follow that it rises out of experience. Just as a person wearing sunglasses sees things differently, so the human being sees things according to that structure.”

    Kant distinguishes the consciousness into two dimensions, sensibility and understanding. Sensibility is the minds way of receiving representation of things (intuition- insight) from the body, Understanding is how the mind actively thinks about those objects. Theories about the forms of intuition and the categories of the understanding lead to distinguish phenomena (appearances as filtered through our senses and understanding) from noumena (things themselves as they exist independently from the mind which we can never know).Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without proof, evidence, or that which is reported through the senses.

    So the senses aid our mental ability to reason the structure of reality. But.... Spirituality and Mass exists outside Intelligence, so it is impossible for us to know true form. It is important, for the sake of spirituality, that we divide the man into three parts… Physical, Spiritual, and Intellectual. If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

    Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2) And there are three varieties...

    Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma, the sun is the visible form of E/c2
    Mental E/c2 - Our thinking can produce creativeness, light, and good things
    Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

    The Natural E/c2 in the form of mass produces a gravity that attracts other objects
    The Intellectual E/c2 produces a gravity that draws us to study
    The Spiritual E/c2 also has a gravity that draws and makes religion attractive

    Evolution, then, is the result of the filtered imagination of man and is not how things are actually are.
     
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    The Philippine Tarsier, it is said that the eyes make up almost half its body weight.

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