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God Does Whatsoever He Pleases

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by KenH, Feb 3, 2023.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    May 18, 2002
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    Not unto us, O LORD, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory,
    For thy mercy, and for thy truth's sake.
    Wherefore should the heathen say,
    Where is now their God?
    But our God is in the heavens:
    He hath done whatsoever he hath pleased. - Psalms 115:1-3

    "If it be so very absurd, to worship the work of other men's hands; what must it be, to worship the works of our own hands? Perhaps, you may ask, "God forbid that I should do so." Nevertheless, let me tell you, that trust, confidence, reliance, and dependence, for salvation, are all acts and very solemn ones too, of divine worship: and upon whatsoever you depend, whether in whole or in part, for your acceptance with God, and for your justification in His sight, whatsoever, you rely upon, and trust in, for the attainment of grace or glory; if it be any thing short of God in Christ, you are an idolater to all intents and purposes.

    Very different is the idea which Scripture gives us, of the ever-blessed God, from that of those false gods worshipped by the heathens; and from that degrading representation of the true God, which Arminianism would palm upon mankind. "Our God [says this Psalm, verse the third] is in the heavens: He hath done whatsoever He hath pleased." This is not the Arminian idea of God: for our free-willers and our chance-mongers tell us, that God does not do whatsoever He pleases; that there are a great number of things, which God wishes to do, and tugs and strives to do, and yet cannot bring to pass: they tell us, as one ingeniously expresses it:

    "That all mankind He fain would save, But longs for what He cannot have. Industrious, thus, to sound abroad, A disappointed, changing God."

    How does this comport with that majestic description, "Our God is in the heavens"! He sits upon the throne, weighing out, and dispensing, the fates of men; holding all events in His own hand; and guiding every link of every chain of second causes, from the beginning to the end of time. Our God is in heaven, possessed of all power; and (which is the natural consequence of that) He hath done whatsoever He pleased: or as the Apostle expresses it, (the words are different, but the sense is the same) "He worketh all things after the counsel of His own will" (Ephesians 1:11)."

    - excerpt from Augustus Toplady's "Arminianism: The Golden Idol of Freewill"
  2. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Mar 4, 2011
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    The exhaustive determinists think everything that happens is predestined by God, and we should accept it as God's will. This is a destructive heresy because we are to strive to follow Christ, and when we fail, to confess our misses, and redouble our effort to improve our walk with Christ.

    The verse that says "all things work together for good for those who love God and have been called according to His purpose," can be understood in at least two ways. The alternate understanding, i.e. all things are not predestined by God, is that "all things work together for good" refers to the end result of our life, which is eternal life with Christ, rather than the result of sin in fallen humanity.