God's election

Amy.G · Oct 31, 2009

Winman said: ↑

The order shown is always,

#1 Hear the word of God
#2 Believe
#3 Receive the Holy Spirit.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
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Regarding the order of salvation, I wanted to share something my SS teacher taught last week.

The order of salvation is in Romans 10:14 and is really clear when you take the verse in reverse.

Rom 10:14 ¶How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

1. The word is preached.
2. The word is heard (understood).
3. The word is believed.
4. Jesus is called on to save.

I had never noticed this before.

OldRegular · Oct 31, 2009

Winman said: ↑

That is a ridiculous argument. God's word itself uses the very same exact word to express faith in God as it does other things like horses and chariots.

Psa 44:6 For I will not trust in my bow, neither shall my sword save me.

Here the Psalmist is saying they will not trust in their own strength or might, nor in their weapons to give them victory over their enemies, but God. The word trust here is the exact same word as used many times when the scriptures say a man's trust is in God.

Psa 25:2 O my God, I trust in thee: let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me.

You are arguing that the Holy Spirit contradicts the scriptures.

You are also taking the opinions of a man over the scriptures themselves.
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