Gold dust and oily hands...

X, you are assuming a lot about people that you don't even know. I for one was not raised in any church. I had no Christian influence in my home. So my belief does not come from parents or preachers beating it into my head. I had to go to the Bible. You don't seem to be willing to do that. You have been given very good advice and have rejected all of it. If you are saved then you are still a spiritual babe and you need to study the Word and pray, get in church and get out in the world and do good things for others. You are not going to grow otherwise. As for all the charasmatic stuff, it's just for show. It has absolutely nothing to do with you growing as a Christian. And not all churches are dead and boring just because people aren't falling out in the isles. My church is very spirit filled. You can't go there and not be changed. And it's a Baptist church! You need to concern yourself with what pleases God and not what pleases you.
Get in the Word and learn!

 

Amy.G,
Your efforts have been great. Your advice (and most everyone else's) was great. But still, XDX throws up yet another smoke screen. If he's interested in the truth, he'll find it in God's Word. If not, he'll continue to look everywhere else. Seems to me that he's not interested in truth, only smoke screens. I'm not sure it's worth your efforts. Just my opinion.

XDX,
Truth is available to you. It is only found in God's Word.

 

Thank you. And I think you're right. There is really nothing left to say is there? The truth is there if he wants to know it. I pray God gives him a teachable heart.

 

It's not only the smoke screens. It was so telling when he described starting a thread then leaving it alone while the arguments on the controversial subject grew.

Guess my prayers shall also need to be for Christians to show love for one another and accept Christ's love for their fellow believers. This is His commandment.

 

No, we can't change a person's heart, but some try to scare or tough-talk people into changing their hearts, which might as well be us thinking we can change it.

Well, electronic may be all he has for now. On the other hand, the way many Christians are, he can have a mentor in person, and the person still be just as cold and dismissve as people are being here. You want some overnight "proof" of growth? Like for him to just stop asking questions all of a sudden. But that is unfair to demand of anybody.
Again, all the condemnatory language is unjustified.

 

Personally, I enjoy the questions.

Some Christians are afraid to think for themselves, it seems. Daring to challenge their presuppositions is, to them, dangerous.

Me, I like it when you ask questions everyone else dismisses as "obvious." Keep it up.

 

Nonsense.

 

*kaboing!*

 

Actually, you've been quoted SCRIPTURE many times which answers your questions.

You also said:

God's word is God's word whether it's in electronic form or paper.

 

Or, it could mean that you finally did what you said you were going to do a year ago - look for discipleship.

Instead for the last year, you have played games . . .

A year of spiritual growth wasted.

And you call yourself xdisciplex . . . a disciple would not 'waste' time to grow, but a baby in the faith would.

 

It's good to keep an open mind about these things. I don't get excited about gold dust. Honestly, I don't know why the Lord would do such a thing. On the other hand, I realize the Lord doesn't need my understanding or aproval to do something. God did plenty of strange things in the Bible. He made mana fall from heaven to feed people, made an axehead float, turned a stick into a snake, and a number of other things.

I heard about the gold dust thing about 7 or 8 years ago going on in kind of like Vineyard or prophetic movement circles. I'm not sure exactly where. I heard of gold fillings to.

My brother's former pastor's wife, whom he knew quite well, said she got a gold filling. I didn't get to see it the last time I was in the US. I met a woman here in Jakarta who does missionary social work type ministry who said she got a filling in answer to prayer. She showed it to me, but I couldn't tell the difference between that and a regular filling.

One thing I noticed was that I didn't hear about the gold dust in the name it and claim it circles. The circles I heard about this going on in weren't into that kind of thinking. I can just imagine people bringing brooms and dust pans to chuch to sweep up the blessings.

 

Btw, a Baptist form might not be the best place to ask questions like this.

 

x

Don't give up on reading the book of Romans. I like Romans. I get a lot out of it. Back in my teenage years, I was in a teen Bible quiz program and memorized the book of Romans.

But I know there was stuff, pretty important stuff, that I didn't see until my 20's, that hit me like a big revelation.

You can read the action, stuff, too. II & II Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles are good for that, as are Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, and Judges. So are the gospels. But keep at the doctrinal stuff.

Once you get a basic foundation of understanding, you start seeing more and more the more you read. You can also seek the Lord for understanding. Read, and trust him to open it up to you.

Btw, have you been baptized?

Maybe you can find someone on an Internet live chat forum to discuss passages of scripture or something through net meeting. Are you near an American military base? If so, there might be some navigators there willing to meet with you.

Link

 

I think if you were fully immersed, they're just giddy about it.

If you get sprinkled, then to a Baptist you're as good as in Hell already.