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Guns you own?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ivon Denosovich, Oct 30, 2007.

  1. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Uh, I am an American citizen - I do understand. I still get worried of the armouries in some homes and a willingness to pull the trigger.
     
  2. Bro. Curtis

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    An armed society is a polite society, Roger. :type:
     
  3. reformedbeliever

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    This is the mentality I was talking about. If one has an armoury, they better be willing to pull the trigger. As a matter of fact, they better train to pull the trigger. Why do you think the military and police forces train on a regular basis?
     
  4. Baptist Believer

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    I understand that... I've had law enforcement training back when I was a bodyguard for a prominent family.

    But here's the scenerio I'm thinking about: recently a friend of mine was at work and his wife was alone at home. Someone rang the bell. She looked out the peephole and saw two teen boys she did not recognize. She didn't answer the door and went back to the kitchen. A moment later, she saw those same teens boost themselves over the back fence. she called 911 while she ran to get a shotgun and loaded it by the back window in full view of the teens. Suddenly they noticed her chambering a shell and nearly smashed through a solid wood plank fence in their haste to get out of there.

    While the looks of the shotgun are not nearly as important as other considerations, I want my wife and I to have a shotgun available that looks as vicious as its bite. I don't want to shoot anyone, but I won't draw a weapon unless I am willing to pull the trigger.

    Yep. As a rule, I don't like killing (including hunting), but I've been in situations back in the bodyguard days when I've had to pull a weapon and was within a hair's breadth of using it when the attacker surrendered.
     
  5. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Sorry the confusion was my fault. I should have said eagerness to pull the trigger.
     
  6. reformedbeliever

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    No problem brother. There are those of the mentality that you should only pull the gun to threaten a potential perp. That can be against the law in some states. It is illegal to point a weapon at anyone. It is not illegal to use that weapon in self defense. That is in my state. We have the "make my day" law, and the "stand your ground" law. The latter gives you the right to use deadly force anywhere you have a legal right to be.... if you feel your life, or the life of someone else is in danger. For example a car jacking, or in the parking lot of Wal Mart. Before this law, if you saw a man beating a woman to death, you could not use deadly force to intervene. Now you can.
     
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    Emphasis mine

    A lot of anti-gunners seem to have the belief that a "gun nut" is just waiting for the opportunity to waste another human.

    I certainly do not know ALL "gun nuts", but I have yet to know one that is trigger happy. In fact, most are extremely wary of having to use the weapon against anybody, and would far more prefer a perp to surrender & wait for the police.

    BUT, should the perp decide to test the resolve of the "nut", then the perp has probably just determined his own fate!!

    So the "nut" is acting from necessity, not preference.

    Please keep the difference in mind!
     
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    You all are crazy. What you going to do when the U.N. armored car rolls up to collect your guns?
     
  9. reformedbeliever

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    Probably have to break out my grenade launcher. :laugh:
     
  10. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Give them your address.
     
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    80+% will eagerly hand them over in exchange for "safety". They may say they'll resist but they won't. Especialy after the UN and the mainstream media brands anyone who dares to resist terrorists. "give us all your guns...you don't want to be a terrorist now do you, ummmmmmm?" C'mon now, all the other good citizens are giving up their guns...you want to be a good citizen too don't you?"
     
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  12. hillclimber1

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    IMO, you should worry more where you are, knowing no one can come to your rescue, should a bad guy come.
     
  13. Ex-Fundy

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    I don't own any.

    But I if I did...

    it'd be:

    one of these:

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    or one of these:

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    and just for fun, one of these:

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    Can you tell that I like guns?

    :D
     
  14. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Thanks my friend. I guess in a situation like mine I am forced to trust another Protector.
     
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    You'll have to explain to a Brit like me how Psalm 104.33 relates to American gun ownership. It says:

    I will sing to the LORD as long as I live; I will sing praise to my God while I have my being.

     
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    This thread has certainly thrown the difference in gun laws between countries into sharp focus. Very few people in the UK own guns, compared to the total population. I don't know any Christians here who own them, though I imagine some farmers who are Christians would. I must say that I am surprised at the number of guns owned by some individuals who have replied.
     
  17. hillclimber1

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    Always that argument. While in your case, it is true and right, but too often it is used wrongly.
    Reminds me of an incident concerning a wealthy older lady in our church that had pretty bald tires on her newer car, and had to make a trip over some mountains in the snow. She said she was "trusting God" instead of installing proper new tires. Foolishness, IMO.......God expects us to proceed logically and part of his provisions, in her case, was adequate moneys and time to protect herself.
     
  18. hillclimber1

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    I was out at the local gun range yesterday, before noon and there had been about 35 others there before me, that had signed in. We go out to sight in our guns, or make sure they are sighted in, and to keep skills honed. You do that as part of your general life's walk, mostly for the pleasure, and just this little effort can help stand you in good stead, should something bad occur, and to insure better hunting success. There are usually somewhere around 75 people a day out there, and many more, including me that go into the hills, where greater elevation and wind changes add to the skill honing. In my case I don't hunt any more, but keep up the target skills.

    There is also a pleasure in seeing the craftmanship displayed in gun making when I get home and take them apart to clean.
     
  19. reformedbeliever

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    It is a wonderful hobby.
     
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    Now that will really really work, won't it? Lilke it did for a friend of mine, a Christian and seminary doctoral student in the Pilippines, who was stabbed to death by a prowler.
     
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