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Halliburton Supports Republicians. Is This Good for America?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Oct 29, 2010.

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  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    Do you criticize Halliburton for defrauding the government?
     
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  3. Crabtownboy

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    It seems a bit strange to use an article from 2004 in an attempt to discredit one from 2010. Just in cause you forgot:

    Now, do you defend Halliburton in defrauding the government in the way described? Do you defend these business practices?
     
    #43 Crabtownboy, Nov 2, 2010
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    Your proof is an opinion article that cites no source.

    Please provide your evidence of the fraud.

    For all we know your opinion piece is simple repeated the myth.



    There is nothing to defend at this point because you have proved nothing.
     
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    Halliburton

    That should be enough.





    There is nothing to defend at this point because you have proved nothing.[/QUOTE]
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    Your stories all say "allegation" - nothing about proof.

    The stories about bribes and kick backs relate to countries where that is the only way that business is done.

    How about an article that refers to charges brought against Halliburton?

    Or an article about fines levied against Halliburton?

    Perhaps a story about convictions of Halliburton employees or officers?
     
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    Apparently leftists have no memory even of their own statements. I said they shouldn't be lifted up, which you mentioned.

    You say they have defrauded the gov't. Your statement is not proof no matter how seriously you take it. Reich's statement is not proof. Apparently left wingers only believe in innocent until proven guilty when it applies to other of your ilk.

    I am out of this conversation because arguing with you is like arguing with my cat.
     
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    I am not sure what you mean by proof. Are you saying the Pentagon auditors are liars and just because they say that H defrauded the gov. that is not proof? If you are demanding more then there is not a thread, except perhaps on a very rare exception, on this board that is proven.

    Have you demanded such proofs when people call Obama a Muslim or a socialist?
     
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    Reporters have to cover themselves from being sued for liability, slander and declamation.

    The stories about bribes and kick backs relate to countries where that is the only way that business is done.[/quote]

    Which is illegal according to our laws.

    Well, how about ..................

    or

    or

    In a way, the fines are convictions, not necessarily of personnel, but it is the officers who had to approve the practices that resulted in the fines. Also, remember, it is a minefield to go after officials of companies when the VP, now former VP of the US is their friend.
     
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    Too bad you don't exercise the same caution. :tongue3:

    There you go again. :laugh:

    How do you know that the officers of Halliburton approved of the bribes?

    Why weren't they charged then?

    As to your former VP statement - more allegation without proof.

    Slandering others is a sin - you know that don't you?

    It falls under the category of false witness.
     
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    You are wasting your time Crabtownboy. People like Tom Bryant and Targus don't care about whether or not Halliburtion is cheating the U.S. or not. And they certainly can't allow you to be the one to point this out.

    Why you could start a thread about how the dawn brings sunshine, and they would ask you for proof.
     
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    We care - and we also care about truth.

    Perhaps you can show evidence that Haliburton defrauded the government.

    Not holding my breath though.

    Notice how Crabby was forced to change his allegations from defrauding the government to payoffs in foreign countries where payoffs are the standard practice of business.
     
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    You are quite right and I have realized this for some time. However, just like in carrying the message of Christ to others we do not stop simply because there are those who will reject the message simply because they do not like the message and/or the messenger.

    It became obvious to me quite some months ago that some will reject anything I say simply because they do not like me. However that causes me no worry nor emotional upset. It would be nice if they engaged in rational discussion, but I realize that is not going to happen any time soon.

    Thanks for your kind words.

    It will be interesting to see how they twist my words.
     
    #53 Crabtownboy, Nov 2, 2010
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    Don't you all just feel the liberal love fest?
     
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    Martyr complex?

    Somebody really thinks highly of himself.

    There can be no rational discussion until you offer FACTS instead of allegations.
     
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    Martyr complex? Oh no. Not to recognize a disliking like yours to me is most obvious.

    Yes, you really do think highly of yourself. I am surprised you recognize this in yourself.

    To you the only facts are those that you yourself believe in. If facts are not to your liking you simply ignore or reject them. So you are correct in that there is no rational discussion with you.

    Do you really contend that Halliburton conducts itself ethically?
     
    #56 Crabtownboy, Nov 2, 2010
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    How would you know?

    You haven't provided any.

    Do you really think that it is Christ like to judge others based on unproven allegations?

    Do you really think that it is Christ like to then take it a step further by judging others based on association?

    As you are doing with Halliburton and Republicans?

    And do you really compare this stupid topic with spreading the Gospel?

    PUH-LEEZZZZ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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    Simple, because you never acknowledge anything as fact that you initially disagree with.


    The fines are not allegations and Haliburton has admitted to breaking US law by bribing foreign officials. .

    I have no idea what you are attempting to say.

    So you are saying that Halliburton is an ethical company. I only said that they gave Republicians donations and asked is this good for the country. Is it?

    And do you really compare this stupid topic with spreading the Gospel?

    PUH-LEEZZZZ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:[/QUOTE]
     
    #58 Crabtownboy, Nov 2, 2010
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    Quick question for crabby...

    Do you feel guilt when you lie?

    Just wondering.
     
    #59 rbell, Nov 2, 2010
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    What facts?

    List them.

    That is your bait and switch.

    Your OP was about defrauding the government.

    Now you want to switch it to something else.

    Please stay on topic. :tongue3:

    Ain't that a surpise !:laugh:

    Just saying that you have given nothing more than allegations.

    You seem quite comfortable judging those you dislike based on mere allegations but I am not. :saint:


    Really? That's all that you have said?:rolleyes:

    How is it bad for the country?
     
    #60 targus, Nov 2, 2010
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