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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by gigabyte71, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. padredurand

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    Druid. :laugh:
     
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    And on another thread Masons are being excoriated for some of their so-called pagan practices. Just what does "hanging of the green" have to do with worship of God in spirit and truth.
     
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    The "Christ candle", really? Oh, yeah! Peter lit a "Christ Candle" that night in the jail to see how to walk out, right? (sorry, that was with all the self control I could muster [insult snipped])
     
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    Yes, to the flowers. BUT, we don't place any significance on them, or try to build a link to "Christ" by them, they are merely like paint on the wall.

    Yes and No, to my attire. Sometimes I do, somtimes it's jeans and shirt. The Scriptural authority to wear clothing is evident it think.

    Yes, to the car. Jesus walked and rode the colt of a donkey, today's equivalence to a small car.

    So, there is much difference to using modern conveniences in the Church and bringing in "things" to try to tie to "Christianity" that just doesn't make the reach, Preach Tony
     
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    I have no problem with any of the things I listed, I just don't think it's right to require others to give scriptural evidence when you don't feel it necessary to provide your own. Just saying...
     
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    I am glad you're "jus sayin". Please, feel free to "Jus say" anytime.
     
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    In this and other posts you have done a masterful job of expressing your views on the accoutrements of Christmas. Now I'm curious, do you in any way celebrate the birth of our Lord?

    If so, what do you do?

    If not, why not?
     
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    Have you never heard of the Septuagint?

     
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    Hymns are not necessary to give an invitation. i believe they are used to stir emotions!

    Throw them out and save the money. a cappella is much better!

    Not a problem!

    Roman Catholic influence!

    Put the choir in the congregation. It will improve congregational singing and eliminate choir tendency to become performance oriented rather than worship oriented!

    Depends on the size of the congregation but individual cups can prevent the spread of disease.

    Just how does hanging of the green and stained glass windows add to the worship of HOLY GOD?
     
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    Thanks for asking Zenas, I believe the LORD Jesus was born in late September. But, I do read the accounts in Matthew and Luke and contemplate the account. But have you ever thought about it like this. Jesus was born TO DIE. The entire purpose of His birth was so that He could DIE. Not just of old age but a BLOODY death up on a cross. For the Atonement of the Elect. Propitiation to the Father. I see much more biblical support for celebrating the Passover. You know Jesus was the Pasche (Passover) not "Easter" as the KJT words it. YHWH, Himself instituted the Passover celebration and said to keep it. Although I am not Jewish, I would say there is more "biblical reason" to keep the Passover feast than to bring an evergreen tree into the house and decorate it and tell the children that a Santa Claus is going to bring toys if they are good. To that I say BAH HUMBUG.. (false, Imposter) But with all this said, what a person does in his/her home is far less concerning to me than what The Church does.:BangHead::BangHead::BangHead:
     
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    BTW ZENAS, since you asked. I have an artificial tree up in my house. At some point my wife and daughter will decorate it. I might even help a little. But, it is all done with me constantly complaining and stating all the reasons we shouldn't do it. But I do NOT associate any of it in anyway with the birth of Christ and am vocal about it and another Btw, I leave the tree up year round and joke when my daughter's friends come by that it's not a Christmass tree It a ___________________ tree. (insert current month):laugh:
     
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    It doesn't add anything in my book. Matter of fact, If our Gathering did so ,I would be so busy fuming I couldn't worship.
     
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    Excellant points. Jesus Christ was the only person born fot the purpose of dying. Scripture tells us that Jesus Christ is our passover, sacrificed for us:

    1Corinthians 5:7. Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us .

    However, at Easter we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the greatest event in Christendom, without which there would be no Church. Many people who call themselves Christians frequently, perhaps more often than not, trivialize what actually occurred some 2000 years ago when the Christ Child was born to the Virgin Mary in a stable in the Judean town of Bethlehem. It is true that we celebrate that birth at Christmas and we may, amid the feasting and gift exchange, take a moment to reflect, even marvel, about the birth of the Christ Child. Yet do we comprehend in any way what the incarnation cost God. God the Son, the Second Person of the Trinity, for a time laid aside His Glory, but His Deity, His Holiness, He could not lay aside and yet for some 33 years He lived as a man among sinful man. And one day this Incarnate God, Jesus Christ, who often called Himself the Son of Man walked up a hill and there fulfilled the purpose for which He was born. Indeed He became our Passover.

    We would do well to look beyond the “manger”and consider:

    No Grace, No Incarnation;
    No Incarnation, No Cross;
    No Cross, No Resurrection;
    No Resurrection, No Hope.

    Jesus Christ did not die on the Cross so the the Church for which He died could become a place of entertainment. The Church is an assembly of the redeemed gathered to worship Holy God in spirit and in truth but we have made it a place similar to that which Jesus Christ cleansed with a scourge of cords.

    Believing this I heartedly agree that
     
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    Infractions will be given for insulting another brother or sister in Christ because they may (or may not) practice something you don't agree with.

    Ask all to grow up, play nice or we will start hanging some out to dry (on the greens)

    Grif
     
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    And where do you see the piano?!?
     
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    In the front to the left of the Pulpit. It could however be hidden. Probably the best option. ;)
     
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    My intent was sarcasm as humor not intended to insult. Since the above thread publicly indicates there was an "insult snipped" I feel it necessary to issue this disclaimer and say: I apologize to my brother in Christ RevMitchell for my mis speaking. May he and others be able to forgive and accept this apology. God Bless.
     
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    What? The church we saw this at literally sang 'O Christmas Tree' as the closing song. Wondered if this was how every version of this thing ended.
     
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    Done.................
     
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    I understand the reaction to "hanging greens". Some how the mind goes from a little country church to an oak grove full of naked pagens. I get it. But don't dismiss it out of hand just because you assume it is something it is not.

    Nobody is worshipping the greens, earth, trees, false gods and myth. Hanging of the greens is simply a tool to teach biblical truths. It is called an object lesson. For those of you who reject the greens because it does not appear in Scripture miss the point. Object lessons appear all over the Gospels.

    Jesus was a master of the use of the object lesson. He used a coin of Caesar to teach us the difference between the kingdom of man and the Kingdom of God. He had a child sit on His lap and went on to teach about childlike faith. He used a well full of water to illustrate living water.

    Mustard seeds, grape vines, fishing nets,lillies, sparrows and the hairs on our head were tools in His teaching. He used a basic principle of teaching by starting with something his learners knew and used it as a bridge to teach a new truth.

    Hanging of the Greens is an extended object lesson - something known used to engage the learner toward spiritual truths.
     
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