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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Reformed, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. thatbrian

    thatbrian Well-Known Member

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    Repeating it doesn't make it true, Hank. You aren't Dorothy, and you don't have the ruby shoes.
     
  2. HankD

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    You never know. It is true - apart from sin with God all things are possible.
    What are you talking about - who is Dorothy? Yellow Brick Road?
    I was in the service and I understand Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds (In my foolish youth).

    HankD
     
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  3. thatbrian

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    I do know. I know with all certainty that you and I are not going to be the starting quarterbacks in the Superbowl. The fact that think there is a chance we could be is only an indication of a break from reality or a horrific case of eisegesis.

    All things are not possible, in the world that God created. All does not always mean, "without exception".
     
  4. HankD

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    OK I am guilty as charged to me it means "without exception" (apart from sin).

    HankD
     
  5. HankD

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    Amen!

    HankD
     
  6. thatbrian

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    Could you become a 400' red toad later this afternoon?
     
  7. thatbrian

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    Iron sharpens iron. ;)

    Wish I knew which part you were amening.
     
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  8. HankD

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    It isn't my choice.

    I know a guy named Nebuchadnezzar who became a cow!

    HankD
     
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    I'm sorry that you contradict yourself about God's sovereignty and say that miracles are delusional. The Bible is FULL of miraculous events that unbelievers find delusional.It WOULD have to be a miracle of God for you or any other man here to play in the Superbowl. But you are straining at a gnat.

    My point was that your football reference was not in the same "ball park" with what Hank was talking about.

    And yes, I am quite aware of the text. I read it about three or four times before I posted here. I always do that. I saw no Calvinism in there nor was I looking for it. I saw the sovereignty of God which relieves me greatly that I am not in charge.
     
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    So it's the natural world that has you refuting "all things".

    Well, didn't God part more than one river? Have a great fish eat a man and the man didn't get digested, but lived to tell about it? Didn't God turn a woman from vegetable to mineral?

    You see ...."with God, all things ARE possible." With man, no. With God, ALL things of his divine will.

    without exceptiion ..... all things......of/with God who is sovereign over all ....well, all things

    I don't normally watch the Superbowl, but this year, I will watch a little to see if you are there. [just kidding]

    [but if God wanted you there, you would be there]
     
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    With comments like this we wonder why there isn't more harmony on BB?

    Sent from my Pixel 2 XL
     
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  12. HankD

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    Yes Scarlett, I think if we were in charge, God would have to come to our aid.

    HankD
     
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    Then you have to either...Ignore them because they are idiots and have proven themselves so.

    Or, like a family thanksgiving, refuse to discuss issues you just know will start a fight.

    Those are your two options I’m afraid.
     
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    Yea, why would Christ’s own words have any weight!?! Jesse Louise
     
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    I typically ignore them. We would not invite people who behaved like the Finneyists here behave to our family Thanksgiving.
     
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    And my family has Finneyists, Calvinists, Agnostics, Athiests, Catholics, Presbyterians, Baptists, Dutch Reformed, etc. We did have a Jets fan, but we had to get rid of him. :Wink
     
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    A "real miracle" would be my Detroit Lions making and winning the Super Bowl!
     
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    Pffftt...try being a Browns fan. :(
     
  19. thatbrian

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    Could it be that it takes a clever, witty person to appreciate clever, witty comments?
     
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    I did not say that miracles were delusional, Scarlett. I said that you were if you believe that there is any way in which Hank and I would be starting quarterbacks in the Superbowl.

    Do you believe that the context of a passage is vital to understanding a text? Or do you think that any single verse can stand on its own when trying to understand its meaning?
     
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