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Have MV's caused more confusion than good?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Baptist4life, Jun 2, 2007.

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  1. Keith M

    Keith M New Member

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    You're right about that. I won't go into details, but that is why my wife and I left the church where we were married over 21 years ago. Now, 21+ years later, there is a new pastor there. We visit occasionally, but people always say "You can't go back." It's true. That church - the body of believers that was there in 1986 - is not the same. Some have moved on. Others have passed into their eternal rewards. Others there have come since 1986. The church as we knew it in 1986 is no longer there, even though the building and grounds are there.
     
  2. Salamander

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    Nope, I'd rather be wrong and correctable than confused and not sure what is correct.
     
  3. Salamander

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    Sure I do, it's that Old Fashioned Independent Separated Baptist Church that has continued throughout the ages.

    Besides, we are all priests when it comes to being a child of God.

    When there is something found in the Scripture that seems to contradict what we think others say, we need to compare. Our false dogmas don't get too much puppychow when the harmony of all Scripture is taken into concern.
     
  4. Salamander

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    No, some things were hard for some to understand due to their carnality and a lack of study.

    Untaught/ lack of study

    Unstable/ carnal.

    As far as more than one Greek translation of the O.T. being a factor, I dunno.
     
  5. Salamander

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    The context determines the differences between "witness" and "record"

    John 5 Jesus has not had as much exposure to the poeple as he did in latter John 8.

    IOW, not much of a record in John 5 as much as a witness, but more of the record/ fame throughout the land, concerning His miracles, of which the multitudes did follow Him, in John 8.

    Again we find that the KJB is far Superior to the impression upon the mind.
     
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    No answer to this question? Did the "MV" of 1611 cause confusion to those used to the Geneva Bible?
     
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    It may have for a time. However, its intent and its result was the reduction of the few into one, providing a uniform translation for all. Confusion set in in the late 19th century, and increasingly into the 20th century when the one became hundreds.
     
  8. Keith M

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    I'm sure it did, Roger. And I'm sure there were those who felt that the Geneva was good enough for them and didn't want anything to do with that new-fangled modern version that changed some familiar words. There may have even been a few who said the new version just wasn't the word of God since it didn't exactly follow the tried and true Geneva. Sounds kinda familiar, doesn't it?
     
  9. Keith M

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    Don't forget the differing readings in the various KJVs, Rufus. And the confusing discrepancy about the age of King Ahaziah when he began his reign (22 or 42?). Those things can also cause confusion.
     
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    Well that's what I dig about you Keith, even if I had forgotten I can always count on you to remind me ;)
     
  11. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I would love to ask for proof of this since they praised the multitude of translations, but that would be another thread.
     
  12. Rippon

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    The 1611 caused a lot of constrenation rather than a benign confusion . Those who held dearly to their Geneva Bible rebuffed the KJV quite firmly . I think that the KJV did not attain solid acceptance until the 1660's .
     
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    Of course their was objection to the "new" version known as the KJB of 1611, but as the printer's errors and spelling changes were made, and later corrected, it is still the KJB that holds its ground over the multiplicity of all these MV's.

    The KJB remains the Pinnacle of all English translations in the very fact it is always referred to in any conversation at length about versions. Always has been, since 1611, and always will be. Why even those who are only KJB preferred resort to the Letter to the Reader for some sort of substancial "evidence", but we know why they said what they did as to not offend by what they were certain they had accomplished.:sleeping_2:
     
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    ZOOM! Right over his head!
     
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    Yeah, "I'm much more holy if i don't have that thar ed-ukaa-shun!!!"

    And they wonder why others don't take them seriously!
     
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    And the only reason the KJV gained precedence over the Geneva was that the Geneva bible was eventually outlawed in England forcing people to switch to the KJV. :)
     
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    But the American Pilgrims and the following generation still stuck with the Geneva primarily ( the Bishop's Bible still had some circulation though ) .
     
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    The Pilgrims are essentially gone today too.
     
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    OK, you're wrong! :laugh: (Just kidding; I couldn't pass up the opportunity.)
     
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    Clearly, the full and complete meaning of God's words in Greek are not conveyed in just these four English words. Acts 17:11 (KJV) --
    These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.​
    I will assert that the single English word "searched" is also inadequate. The word Luke wrote under the Holy Spirit's inspiration intended to communicate the example of investigating the scriptures deeply, a very thorough examination with intense scrutiny. "Searching" alone does not include these comparitive activities. In fact, the simple act of "searching" does not even imply the finding of anything.
     
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