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  1. exscentric

    exscentric Well-Known Member
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    the book "NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON" that was given out freely during Goldwater's campaign? In part it declared the many communists that had infiltrated our country.

    If it were true, what would be the most powerful way to take America? Getting into politics, into media and into teaching school children.

    Just a thought.

    Years ago my daughter started extoling the greatness of socialism, as I dug down to find out where she was getting such information it was coming from school. I called the school and asked the principal if he knew one of his teachers was teaching socialism. "Oh yes, that is part of the curriculum." I then asked if they taught American government and was told that yes they did but that was next year.

    Is not what we see going on today in America the socialization or communization of our country? Or put another way is it the title of the book I never got around to writting? "THE GIVING AWAY OF AMERICA" :tear:
     
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    I read the book before most of you were born. The John Birch Society might be the least effective political movement in the last 100 years - right down there with the Libertarian Party. <G>
     
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    Could you elaborate on your bringing the John Birch Society into this?
     
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    I don't know that to be true, I too have read that book and have it in my personal library. They were very effective to help disclose the passage of the immigration bill as an amnesty for illegals. Congress was going to try to slip this by in the middle of the night. They knew that the American people would not approve of this bill and let them know that Congress was going do it. However talk radio may have played an even greater part in getting the people to put pressure on Congress.

    The book does still have merit.

    The objectives of the communist manifesto;

    The communist revolution is the most radical rupture with traditional relations; no wonder that its development involved the most radical rupture with traditional ideas.

    But let us have done with the bourgeois objections to communism.

    We have seen above that the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.

    The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state, i.e., of the proletariat organized as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.

    Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionizing the mode of production.

    These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.

    Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

    1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.

    When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organized power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organize itself as a class; if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.

    In place of the old bourgeois society, with its classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.


    Something to think about isn't it?
     
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    When John A. Stormer wrote None Dare Call It Treason in 1964, he was not a saved man. He received Christ as his Savior in 1965.

    In 1966, I came to know Christ at a meeting at which he was the featured speaker; in fact, in just a couple weeks I'll be celebrating my 42d re-birthday.

    Praise the Lord!
     
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    :applause: AMEN!

    He certainly stirred things up with the book. Did not know he was a believer. Another amen :thumbs:
     
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    More on John A. Stormer:

    At various times since he was saved in 1965, Stormer has been an evangelist, pastor, educator, and president of the Missouri Association of Christian Schools.

    For over 25 years he has been teaching Bible studies for MO state legislators at its capital, Jefferson City.

    All this has been in addition to being the author of about a half dozen books, the latest of which is entitled Betrayed by the Bench: How Judge-made Law Has Transformed America's Constitution, Courts and Culture.

    More info on his writings may be obtained by contacting Liberty Bell Press; P.O. Box 32; Florissant, MO 63032. Phone 314-409-4080. (They may have a web site but if so, I'm not aware of it.)
     
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    My parents were members of a Free Presbyterian Church in Cillingwood NJ where Dr. Carl McIntyre was their Pastor. They met John Stormer and gave me a signed copy of "None Dare......".
    John Stormer saw this mess we are in coming no doubt.
     
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