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Headcover

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by John3v36, Apr 14, 2004.

  1. John3v36

    John3v36 New Member

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    My wife and I have come to the conclusion that 1Cor 11 demands that a woman in the church needs a head covering.

    She has a hat for now but would like to get something that can fit in her Bible.

    Does someone know where we could get one?

    Thanks

    St John
     
  2. Melanie

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    A scarf, mantilla, they scrunch up mighty small in a handbag etc.

    find I have to have a couple of bobbypins because it tends to slip and slide and I dont want to be fiddling with the thing all through the service.
     
  3. GrannyGumbo

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    Headcoverdlady who usta post here would send ya one. ;) Also I found some thru' the www.bereabaptistchurch.org website. (They cover). I know of one lady who wears a shawl during services & covers when prayer is given.
     
  4. MEE

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    I don't recall mentioning anything, about a headcovering in the other thread, but I would like to know why you all don't think that a woman's hair is given her for a covering.

    In 1 Cor. 11:15) But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her; for her *hair* is given her for a *covering.*

    I'm not talking about not cutting her hair, (been there done that :( ) but that it seems that she should have long hair...or at least not as short as a man, and he should not have long hair.

    1 Cor. 14) Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

    What do ya'll think?

    MEE [​IMG]
     
  5. Jim1999

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    The headcovering in Corinthians is not just a Sabbath Day covering, it was a daily covering and was worn at all times. This was the tradition of the time and place; it was a cultural thing.

    To-day is different. It does not fit this culture.

    But to each his own.

    So far as long hair on a man is concerned, what do you do with many of the Old Testament characters who had long hair?

    The bonnets worn in old England had nothing to do with religion. It was a sign of the woman's place in society and under the man's authority. Women were virtually treated as nothing.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  6. Johnv

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    This has got to be among the most abused and most misunderstood verses in the Bible:

    1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

    Without seeing the previous verses, this verse is taken completely out of context. The previous verses are: But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." The order is God is above Christ; Christ is above the man, and the man above the woman. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head (Christ).

    The previous verses make it clear that the "head covering" is a symbol for headship. A man who prays without authority dishonors Christ. A women who does the same without her spouse's blessing dishonors her spouse. The examples become more clear when you take into consideration the customs of headwear at that time. It doesn't say men and women can't pray pr prophesy, nor does it require or discourage men and women in their head attire. Since head attire customs today are not what they were then, the context of this verse is often difficult to discern. One thing, however, is clear. This verse is NOT intented to require women from keeping their heads covered.
     
  7. Gershom

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    John3v36,

    Maybe you should have posted this in another area. See what it's become already?
     
  8. dianetavegia

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    It doesn't matter WHERE you post about Headcoverings, the topic quickly becomes a debate. I'd suggest you do a 'search' under Headcovering, Hair and even under the specific verses to see what has been discussed before.

    Diane
     
  9. Gershom

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    Why? I'm not interested in debating the headcovering issue. The guy simply wants to know where he can buy one.
     
  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Agreed Gershom (and Diane) - there is no need for this debate to erupt again. The OP question was simple - where can one buys a headcovering?

    How simple is that?
     
  11. John3v36

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    they us to be a lady called headcovering lady
    do yo know what happen to her?
     
  12. dianetavegia

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    You can do a member search and contact her that way John3v36. I believe it was Headcoveredlady

    Diane
     
  13. Gib

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    Is there a head covering that is more appropriate than other head coverings or will a bonnet do?
     
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    You can do a Google search for headcoverings and find all kinds for sale.
     
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    Since this debate is allowed on the BB and there's a number of new members I'm going to keep this thread open but with a warning since the topic has had a tendency to turn ugly in the past.
    Anyone who posts anything that even looks like name-calling or ungraciousness will have that post deleted and be banned from posting any further on the topic.
    Be kind, be gentle, be polite. Use scripture and debate the topic, not the person. Etc.. You know the rules.
    Happy posting. I'll be watching you. (enter scary music) ;)
    Gina
     
  16. Gib

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    Was that the theme to the Munsters?
     
  17. Gina B

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    Musta been the theme to something scary, everyone ran. LOL
    Gina
     
  18. Refreshed

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    This has got to be among the most abused and most misunderstood verses in the Bible:

    1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

    Without seeing the previous verses, this verse is taken completely out of context. The previous verses are: But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." The order is God is above Christ; Christ is above the man, and the man above the woman. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head (Christ).

    The previous verses make it clear that the "head covering" is a symbol for headship. A man who prays without authority dishonors Christ. A women who does the same without her spouse's blessing dishonors her spouse. The examples become more clear when you take into consideration the customs of headwear at that time. It doesn't say men and women can't pray pr prophesy, nor does it require or discourage men and women in their head attire. Since head attire customs today are not what they were then, the context of this verse is often difficult to discern. One thing, however, is clear. This verse is NOT intented to require women fromtheir keeping heads covered.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Dead on. This is the point that I have been trying to make for ages. Many forget the spirtual application, and when you make a physical one, there can be a serious bondage to wearing a headcovering and coming to rely on it for an expression of submissiveness instead of the submissiveness coming from inside.

    Thanks,

    Jason
     
  19. GrannyGumbo

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    John3v36 or anyone~"Headcoveredlady sent me an email & asked me to tell y'all that she would be very happy to send your wife a covering or tell you where to get one...or if anyone wants more info on headcoverings she said to just pm me & I will give you her email. She also said that many of the sisters are being *attacked* by satan lately. Sad.
     
  20. Johnv

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    GrannyGumbo, I sincerely hope that clarification on the scriptural context is not what is considered to be an "attack". If that's the case, it's falsely attributing something to Satan, something we're scripturally forbidden from. If a woman wants to voluntarily wear a headcovering as an expression of her faith, that's perfectly appropriate, and I will and do support that. However, to assert that scripture requires such for all women is not only unscriptural, it's legalistic and presumptuous.
     
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