HELL IS NOT LAKE OF FIRE

Obviously DHK, you did not read, with comprehension, my comments.

I was exspressing my exasperation. Comprende?
In His service;
Jim

FYI My fellow Kingdom believer is doing quite well. And my comments were directed to him about my frustration with the out of hand dismissal of this truth and flippant attitude of some on this board who seem to think somewhat of themselves.

 

The Lake of Fire does not come into play until after the Millennial Kingdom. See Revelation 20:10-15.
Where did the rich man go? To hell.

Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Then, some time after the Millennial Kingdom is over, the Resurrection of the Unjust will take place, and all unsaved will stand before God in the Great White Throne Judgement for their final sentence where all will be thrown into the Lake of Fire--including the rich man (and the rest of those in Hell).

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
DHK

 

So then you don't believe the rich man is in the lake of fire? Either there is a place of fiery torment in hell before the lake of fire, or the rich man got express trained to the lake of fire long before the judgment at the great white throne ever even took place. The latter is apparently what Marcia believes. What say ye?

 

That is right. The rich man is not presently in a place called "the lake of fire." He is in a place that the Bible calls "hell," which Revelation 20:14 says will be cast into the Lake of Fire sometime in the future. There is torment in Hell. It in itself is likened to a place of fiery torment as you described. But it is not the Lake of Fire, per se. Every unsaved person who dies is faced with eternal torment the minute he dies. First he goes straight to Hell. Then at the Resurrection of the Unjust he receives his body and will also receive a final sentence and be sent to a final place of eternal torment--the Lake of Fire. Though the Lake of Fire is spoken of in Revelation 20, it is not certain that it, at this time, even exists yet. The first mention of the Lake of Fire is in Revelation 19:20, when the beast and the false prophet are cast into it. The last mention of it is in Revelation 20:15 when all who are not found in the Book of Life are cast into it.
DHK

 

Now, Bob, you know that the King James bible teaches that hell is not eternal. Oh, but the King James bible is a mark of a cult, too, isn't it? Maybe you should stop trying to conform your doctrine to a confession of faith, and start believing the bible.

 

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

suffering is present tense. They are suffering the vengeance of eternal fire right now, these wicked men from the Old Testament. The only possible place for them to be suffering eternal vengeance is in Hell as they await the final judgement at the Great White Throne Judgement.

As I have said before: A man may receive a life sentence for a crime committed here. The prison guard may move him from one cell to another during that life sentence, but that doesn't change the life sentence any. It is still a life sentence. The fact that he is moved from one cell to another doesn't make one iota of difference.

The fact that the wicked are moved from Hell to the Lake of Fire does't make one iota of difference. It is still eternal punishment of the wicked.
DHK

 

Your stack of "orthodox" books teaches that. The Bible teaches an eternal heaven for the righteous and eternal Lake Of Fire for the unrighteous. I suggest you study Govett, Lang, Pember, Roadhouse, Seiss, Craig, etc. That way you have at least heard my stack of "orthodox" books.

lacy

 

ouch!

 

Seems KingdomBaptist.org disagrees with you fellas.

http://www.kingdombaptist.org/article731.cfm

WHEN PREACHERS BURY HELL: THE ATTACK UPON LITERAL JUDGMENT FIRE AFTER DEATH

Based on the language of the Gospels, this definition, at least in regard to the parabolic language Jesus uses, is absolutely correct. In any and every parable that the Lord uses, everything really exists in reality and nature, exactly as described. Vineyards exist, husbandmen exist, fig trees exist, sheep exist, shepherds exist, doors exist, gates exist, coins exist, candles exist, brooms exist, women exist, barns exist, seeds exist, thorns exist, the sun exists, rocks exist, the blind exist, ditches exist, wine exists, leaves exist, towers exist, winepresses exist, pennies exist, fields exist, fish exist, pearls exist, the sea exists, and rich men exist, beggars exist, angels exist, Abraham exists, and HELL EXISTS AND HELL-FIRE EXISTS! Therefore, even if it could be proven that the story in Luke 16 is a parable (it is not), it would only then prove that Hell really exists, exactly as stated. Notice how the J.W.'s attempt to argue contrary to this fact:

 

How you figure that this is not exactly what we are telling you?