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Featured Here Are The States Where Obamacare Subsidies Could Disappear

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  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    And the GOP has real reasons to hope they do not win this case. It will be a disaster for many Americans and that translates into disaster for the GOP.
     
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    Must be what the dems want since that is how they wrote the law.

    Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber said that it was done intentionally.

    This is all on the democrats.
     
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    Only state where ObamaCare subsidies should disappear is the United States.
     
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    So you do not care that up to 10 million people would suddenly not have any medical insurance. Is this right?

    Also, if the SC rules for the GOP rates will sky rocket in places like Montana, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, across the deep south, etc. Do you want that also?
     
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    As a matter of fact, yes. They will have to get work and insurance just like the rest of us do rather than live off the government subsidies. At some point, there will have to be hard decisions that have to be made if we are to stop the gov't takeover of health care, the internet and the constitution.
     
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    I really liked the plan and the price that I had before Obama care screwed it all up. Obama lied and lied big. I liked my plan but was not able to keep it. Now my middle aged wife has maternity care that she doesn't need, I get one free eye exam each year (whoopy!!), my premium doubled, and my deductible went out of sight. Hopefully, the GOP wins and it becomes the death knell for Obama care.
     
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    There is not supposed to be a federal exchange according to law. Even Democrat states did not want a state exchange. The whole tax increase was illegal because it originate in the Senate, not the House of Representatives.
     
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    So you do not care that up to 10 million people will be without insurance and that, depending on the state you live in, your premiums may go up even more? Your insurance in Alabama will go up dramatically if the GOP wins this case. That is one reason a number of Republican politicians are beginning to become scared and are trying to find ways to negate such a ruling by the SC.

    Didn't Christ teach on how we should treat the poor, the sick, those in need. Did he not teach on the responsibility of those who have been given much?
     
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    Preacher, the Democrats wrote the bill allowing only state exchanges. As you know, Preacher, being without an insurance policy does not mean that you are without healthcare. Here in Indiana, for example, you don't need no stinking insurance policy to get healthcare from the best doctors.
     
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    That shows how poorly you understand this. Jesus told individuals, not governments to care for the poor. Like all big gov't people, you want the government to take care of everyone. The Bible says we ought to care for the poor as we are able. But the Bible also says that if a person won't work, he shouldn't eat. It says that the family ought to care for family members.
     
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    Trying to shame me into accepting a coming train wreck won't work Crabby. Unlike you I don't equate the government as being God.
     
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    So it's beginning to dawn on you that Zerocare is a disaster ?
     
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    Not at all. I understand that if the Supreme Court rules against Obamacare that your premiums, unless you are covered by the VA, the premiums of your wife are going to sky rocket. Also, that many in Montana who now have coverage will not have any medical insurance.

    Some Republicans are finally seeing that they are on the edge of disaster, on several fronts, if the SC rules against Obamacare.



    And people will end up with no insurance and some will die as a result.
     
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    That's not good, considering they've already gone up over 300%. And you said a few days ago you don't know ANYONE who's lost insurance. So I don't think you're honest enough to debate this.
    You do remember it was the democrats that passed this, right ?
     
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    And if the Republicans succeed in killing it and up to 10 million become uninsured will you care that they are uninsured, that some will die because of this, that children will suffer from lack of medical care. What is your real concern?
     
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    Should the Supreme Court rule in favor of law, or Obamacare ?
     
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    If you were honest, your have been whining about them before this.
     
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    The Democrats said that all subsidies were to be administered only through state exchanges. The Democrats did not ask the GOP for advice when the Dems wrote this tax increase.
     
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    But you can already see how they're going to try and blame republicans.

    They must think people are as stupid as they are.
     
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    So you refuse to answer the question. Bro, old buddy, since when it being concerned about others whining. I guess Christ, in your opinion, was whining when he said, "Feed my sheep," and when he said, "I was hungry and ye fed me."

    I know you scream when Christ's words are mentioned. I did now know you considered his words on how we should treat others as whining. Hmmmm, most interesting.

    What is your real concern?
     
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