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Highest Graduation Rate

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Dec 13, 2003.

  1. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator

    Jun 30, 2000
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    Survey of over 25 aged folks showed that WYOMING (okay, just a little pride showing) had the highest rate of residents who had graduated from high school.

    90.2%. Utah right behind at 90.1% And Minnesota and Nebraska at 89%. Then it goes downhill to Texas and Mississippi where less than 75% have finished basic schooling.

    The main factor, according to the AP story, is race/ethnicity. The more minority population, the worse the education level.

    Wyoming has about 2.3% AmerIndian, 6.4% Hispanic, and less than .8% Black, .6% Asian. Looks like that stats hold some truth.

    At the same time, Minnesota (#3 from the top) has 3.5% Black, 2.9% Asian, 2.8% Hispanic, 1.1% AmerIndian. Quite a higher number than Wyoming.

    Is ethnicity/race a factor here?
  2. Major B

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    May 6, 2003
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    As documented by the Thernstroms (Harvard University) in their new book "No Excuses," African American educational achievement lags behind whites, and whites lag behind Asians. This applies across the board, regardless of socioeconomic status (middle class blacks lag behind middle class whites, who lag behind middle class Asians). The Thernstroms, who are not bleeding hearts, but who are very thorough in their research, have a very detailed analysis to the causes and cures for this problem.

    One item of note is expectations. I realize that there are individual exceptions to the following, but the information below comes from a rather large survey sample of parents of school children.

    In general:

    Asian parents will accept nothing less than an "A."

    White Parents will usually accept a "B."

    African-American parents will usually accept a "C."
  3. Brett

    Brett New Member

    Jun 25, 2003
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    Major B's analysis is probably correct; a parent's expectations of his/her child will have a great impact on his/her achievement.

    My parents never really put much pressure in me, but I always felt an implicit need to please them, and I feel like they would be disappointed if I did anything less than my best.
  4. David Mark

    David Mark New Member

    Jul 11, 2003
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    I wonder if there are any stats similar to these regarding adopted children.

  5. gb93433

    gb93433 Active Member
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    Jun 26, 2003
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    I had a guest professor from Wyoming and he said that they have only one university and it is heavily supported.

    I have heard those statistics for years.

    When I was teaching high schol in California I can remember when an asian lady applied to UCLA and she was denied acceptance. She had one of the highest scores on the SAT at that high school and a 3.9 gpa. The counselor called and the person from UCLA at the time told him that asians were not considered a minority. A hispanic young man was accepted with a lower gpa and SAT scores than the asian lady. The actual minority did better in this case.

    It has been my experience that as a whole the asians do better than the whites as a whole.

    I grew up in a community where about 20 out of my graduating class of 220 graduated from college. Almost the entire community is white. In my class there were not any any blacks and hispanics. There was one American Indian. The rest were whites.

    [ December 14, 2003, 02:31 AM: Message edited by: gb93433 ]
  6. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

    Jan 2, 2003
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    DD: This is all I have been able to find so far about adoptive children graduating...

    High School Completion Rates Among Adoptees:
    In Nevada, 85.4% of high school seniors graduated in 199715 and 89.1% of high school seniors graduated in 1998.

    High School Completion Rates Among Adoptees:
    New York City special education students: 61%
    New York City Hispanic students: 64%
    New York City African American students: 68%
    WAY participants: 80% (all former RTC residents)

    These statistics came from the Child Welfare League of America (CWLA).