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Hispanics largest U.S. minority

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  1. Peculiar person

    Peculiar person New Member

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    Yes, that is exactly correct. Any other race can demean the Caucasian race in any fashion whatever and it is acceptable. Any lie can be told about our founding fathers, anything at all. But if one of us has the temerity to speak out against, oh let's say, the wonderful fiction called "Roots", or to propose that foreigners enter America legally and actually learn to speak English, why we are just a bunch of racists.

    HOGWASH!!

    It ought to be of concern, because when it happens there will be no more America as we know it. I feel very sorry for my children and grandchildren.

    PP
     
  2. Shqippy

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    Just out of curiosity, has anyone read the article I linked to above yet? I'm curious as to what you folks think about this. It addresses not only the English language controversy, but the surrounding issues as well. Here it is once more: http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/NALI2.html
     
  3. Johnv

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    It ought to be of concern, because when it happens there will be no more America as we know it. I feel very sorry for my children and grandchildren.

    God forbid this country have a black majority. Yeah, the country will go down the toilet for sure!! :rolleyes:
     
  4. InHim2002

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    is this the baptistboard or stormfront? threads like this are worrying....
     
  5. stubbornkelly

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    Yeh, I'm bothered by this, too. "America" is certainly not restricted to white people of European ancestry. *shiver*

    As to assimilation . . . I don't see what's so darned good about assimilation. And this exchange:

    interests me. Who already spoke English? The English and the Dutch? Well lah-di-dah. But they didn't assimilate into American culture, now, did they? Hardly. But let's even leave out for a moment that Europeans were not the first to lay claim to this land we live on. The ridiculousness of a defense like "they already spoke English" is pretty high - the only reason we want people to speak English now is because the "first" people here did. They didn't assimilate because they didn't have to. Everyone else was expected to assimilate into their culture. The English didn't assimilate, not because they already spoke English, but because they made themselves the dominant culture. Maybe I just didn't understand what you were saying with that, or who you meant by "they," SheEagle, but based on it as a response to what John said, it sounded like you were talking about the English and the Dutch . . . .

    Anyway, assimilation is basically a nice way of saying "civilized." It's a new way, a more - dare I say it - politically correct way to say "you're culture is backwards and wrong, ours is the way to live." Whatever people think about picking up some cultural norms of the society into which you choose to move, insisting on assimiliation is pretty egotistical.
     
  6. LadyEagle

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    From Death of the West by Pat Buchanan

    http://www.webdesk.com/death-of-the-west-by-pat-buchanan/

    And slowly, the most powerful & prosperous nation on earth fades into another Third World Country..... :(
     
  7. LadyEagle

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    Amen, Peculiar Person, Amen. [​IMG]
     
  8. Candide

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    That's interesting, considering California has a more prosperous economy than most of Europe and Asia.
     
  9. Johnv

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    Yep, California has the 9th largest GDP in the world, and has no ethnic majority.
     
  10. stubbornkelly

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    Perhaps some of those who believe this could explain what they believe "America as we know it" is and what, specifically, is bad about a changing face/color of America? I think some of us are hearing it as "America is for white Europeans, and we want it to stay that way" and that implication is to what we're reacting negatively.
     
  11. LadyEagle

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    Do the math.

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/31/illegal.immigration/
     
  12. InHim2002

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    but what are you upset about - illegal immigration or a hispanic majority - at the moment you appear to be conflating these issues and it is confusing.
     
  13. Bro. James Reed

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    Okay, now we get to hear from somebody that lives in the middle of "Little Mexico," as people here like to call it.

    I don't mind anyone wanting to live in this country. I don't mind people wanting to speak the language they were taught as children. I don't mind people wanting to celebrate the culture of their ancestors.

    Here is what I do mind:

    I mind when people come to this country illegally, take jobs away from legal Americans, of any color, and don't pay taxes.

    I mind when people absolutely refuse to learn any English, but expect us to know their language, what ever it be.

    I mind when people get mad at me if I want to celebrate my cultural heritage. My ancestors fought and died for the South during the Civil War. Why can't I fly their flag without being labeled a racist? Do we call people who fly the Union Jack dirty Loyalists?

    I would also like to point out that it's too late to change America's language back to the original Indian tongues; there were many of them. Also, Indians weren't the first people here anyway, so why should we have taken their language? I can say that since I am of Cherokee blood. [​IMG]

    I want to point out that, the vast, vast majority of Americans speak English. If we all want to get along and communicate, we should all know a common language, especially within our own country. Again, I think it's great for people to know more than one language, but for the sake of sanity within our own borders, we should all know English.

    BTW, if people are so bent up about wanting to remain the dominant race, I have a sure-fire way to make it happen. Have more kids! If you're still upset about the lopsided population shift, you have no one to blame but yourself...and, I guess your spouse, too. :D

    God Bless. Bro. James
     
  14. Bro. James Reed

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    One more comment regarding Mexican people...Ilove thier food! Houston has more Mexican restaurants than any other city in the world. They are the best.

    I hate the way they drive. Either way too slow or way too fast. Well, that is my moment for generalizations. :D
     
  15. tyndale1946

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    Brother James agree with everything you said but would like to add one thing... When is the last time you heard a preacher say... Okay young people lets get married and have some more baptist? I don't need to tell anyone on here what the religious preference of most Hispanics is do I?... btw I live about 35 miles from the mexican border!... Brother Glen [​IMG]
     
  16. Candide

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    You still seem to be confusing the issue.

    You do realize that...

    "Most illegal immigrants are Mexican"

    AND

    "Most Mexican-Americans are legal"

    are not contradictory terms, don't you?

    The article and the thrust of this conversation was about the second point. You're attacking it by attacking the first point.
     
  17. Bro. James Reed

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    Bro. Glen, why do you think so many Old Baptists have large families? So we can have members. [​IMG]

    I know so many that have 8, 10, 12 kids. Maybe that's Gods way of adding to the church. :D [​IMG]
     
  18. LadyEagle

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    http://www.immigrationcontrol.com/AIC_Zogby_Mexican_Poll.htm
     
  19. sodzei

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    I agree with Johnv.

    I wonder what the founding fathers would think about our immigration laws. I think they would be disgusted by how many people we turn away at the borders.

    Yes, we should be careful about who we let in. But, what gives us the right to say who can or can't go where they want?

    This country was established for the relief of the oppressed and I think it should stay that way.
     
  20. LadyEagle

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    http://www.immigrationcontrol.com/short_history.htm
     
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