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Holder Calls U.S. 'Nation of Cowards' on Race Matters

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. Dragoon68

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    Holder Calls U.S. 'Nation of Cowards' on Race Matters



    Apparently Holder hasn't been around some of us who don't have that much problem telling like we see it! Maybe he only knows the silent "rich white men" that Obama's former pastor found so repulsive?

    He also fails to note that people may be "forced" to remain silent and, at the very least, avoid any discussion of race else risk loosing their jobs for being "racist" thanks the government inspired paranoia in the work place over civil rights law suits. Somehow I can understand their reluctance but could hardly label it as "cowardice".

    Maybe his purpose is to incite trouble to create an "emergency" to enact more control and resistant? Hopefully not but I'm growing more suspicious of these clowns every day.

    As for after hours socializing, people - exclusive of those out to get something like political ladder climbers - tend to enjoy the company of those they like and have something in common with. Maybe there are social differences that a lot of people just prefer to avoid? Friends are friends regardless of race but it hardly makes one a "coward" if none of their friends are of a different race than their own.

    He we have another misplaced public "servant" sought out by Obama to reform and conform the citizens instead of just serving them.

    What's next on the Obamanite agenda? Will it be forced adult re-education classes on interracial relationship building outside of work to supplement all the mandatory and useless training received at work?

    Beware of this one's agenda!
     
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    I have always thought that "race" would be a central theme of an Obama admininstration.

    Playing off the liberal inspired fears of being "politically correct", it has begun.

    If one objects or argues or disagrees, they will be branded as a "racist". The entire deck of race cards is now in play.
     
  3. JustChristian

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    Forget about the law. Should Christians be racist?
     
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    No, Christians should not be racist.

    Why do you ask?
     
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    JustChristian said:

    If you do not go along with the Obama agenda, you will be declared "racist".

    If you disagree that abortion is murder, you will be called "racist" -- even though abortion kills more blacks than it does whites!

    If you disagree with anything that Pelosi and Reid (and many others) say is what you should beleive, you will be defined as being "racist".

    If you state that belief in Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven, YOU WILL BE CALLED "RACIST"! (And many other things, too!)

    I therefore think Christians SHOULD be "racist", in that we must continue to declare the truth that Jesus is the only way to heaven -- regardless of your skin color! Anything else that conforms to the world's standards is worthless. I would rather be called "racist" then reject my Lord and Savior.

    Bill :godisgood:
     
  6. LeBuick

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    Actually, if you listened to the speech you will see he was doing just the opposite. He was calling us cowards because we strive to be "politically correct". Instead he said we ought to bypass our fears and hold that conversation with people of other races in an attempt to understand our differences and likes.
     
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    Irrelevant to this discussion!

    Besides, if you're a Christian, then you already know the answer!
    If you're not a Christian..... then I see why you ask!
     
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    Under the banner of UNITY, this current administration is really about division.

    A successful attempt to divide our country on the basis of differences... race, wealth, employed vs receivers of entitlements, s@xual orientation, conflicts of faith, language and cultural differences: All common differences making up a society which has general understandings of tolerance and lawful boundaries and values their freedoms and protects the balance of order over oppression.

    But an excellant tool in the hands of those with money, power, and/ or influence..... to create a struggle by an emphasis on differences, inflammatory accusations and sensationalizing and feeding the internal suggestion of intentional hatred..... to drive social and civil unrest...... create a revolution of sorts to justify martial law and military and despot rule and the suspension of the constitution. Anyone who protests on behalf of the constitution then becomes the enemy of the state along with other dissidents who were tools of divisions.
     
  9. Dragoon68

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    Okay, let's say I really don't like black people because they're different. Is that okay?
     
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    Democrats have always been about division starting with FDR. He was able, only God knows how, to set black against white, rich against poor, urban against rural, North against South, and meld them into a party that effectively ruled the country for most of the 20th century.
     
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    You've hit the issue that must be dealt with. Liberals love to confuse things by confusing what is morally right under Christ with what I have the right to do under the law.

    Legally, I have the right to hate anyone I want to hate, for any reason I want to hate them for.

    But say that publicly and watch the spitting and fainting.

    But it's true - the government ain't got no business telling me who to hate, not hate, love, or not love.
     
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    Because that's the topic and because there doesn't seem to be any support for Holder's contention. What he's really saying is we don't make an effort to improve our relationships with people of other races.
     
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    Your post is off-topic. I don't see what abortion has to do with race relations.
     
  14. billreber

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    JustChristian, you missed my point. If you believe ANYTHING or state ANYTHING that goes against Mr. Obama or Ms. Pelosi or Mr. Reid and their party, YOU WILL BE DECLARED RACIST! THEY are the ones who keep bringing up racism, even though none of my cited situations deal with racism. In addition, they define racism as only including white people, even though many people of color (their term) exhibit extreme racist attitudes against whites, as well as against their own "color".

    If you disagree with abortion, you will be declared racist, even though we both know there is no connection. If you preach Jesus as the only way to heaven, you will be declared racist, even though we both know there is no connection. If you disagree with the Democrats (in general, not all) on any matter, you will be declared racist, even though we both know there is no connection.

    IMHO, the Democrats want to keep us (the country) divided and fighting, so that they can keep themselves in power. (It is also possible that Republicans could do something similar. After all, we are all sinners!)

    I hope this clarifies my point to you.

    Bill :godisgood:
     
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    Please show me an example where a Democrat declared someone a racist for disagreeing on abortion or because that person preached Jesus.

    Any example...I'll be waiting.
     
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    That was my take on it too...

    So, when are we going to see a White History Month?
    Or what about White Entertainment TV?

    Why is it when those two questions are asked, some blacks get bothered by them.

    (Yes, I have asked African Americans those questions.. I am not a coward.. I have had a black Brother in law.. and we had many good discussions on race relations)

    I think we should be able to recognize our differences without thinking our race, whatever it is, is more important than the others...

    There are differences.. and we should learn to appreciate them.

    Cowards hide their heads in the sand and ignore the differences.

    I for one have a burden for hispanics in our state.. God put it there..
    I have been taking Spanish classes to overcome one obstacle to witnessing to them..

    If I don't recognize the differences in our cultures, I will fail to do my job properly..

    OK.. i'm done now.
     
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    He saying to not be a coward and discuss that with a black person. In the end he feels it will mean you won't like certain people but not an entire race. Black people come in all flavors just like any other race so I am sure there is one like you or that the only difference will be race. Then if you don't like them then you know the only reason is race which would then confirm you're a ... Non-lover of blacks... :laugh:
     
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    I think the real question is when will black people fairly be placed in history books so a black history month won't be necessary. I thought we had a black history month because blacks were traditionally left out of history books.

    From what Holder said they are cowards because they are afraid to have open dialog on the issue. He is saying if they have a valid reason they should have no problem openly discussion it with you.


    Soledad O'Brien made a profound statement today, she said people are constantly telling her they don't notice race. She thinks to herself, "what, are you blind? How can you look at a black person and not notice they're black?" the trick is not t pretend like you don't notice, it is to know fully they are black and judge them only by their character... I thought that was interesting...
     
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    It's not about 'noticing' whether someone is black or white or hispanic, etc. It's about how much another person's race MATTERS. Personally, I don't see black people. I see people who happen to be black. They are people first, people who Christ died for and loves just as much as me. Everything else is secondary.
    I think Holder is right if he means that people of ALL races are equally guilty of keeping us from being more fully integrated. I think racial hatred has declined greatly in the last 50 years, but unfortunately the hate has been replaced by fear, which has continued to hamper full integration. There is ample blame for that on all sides. We all have to be willing to change to make a difference.
     
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    Unity: A bunch of people doing what I say.
     
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