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Holman Christian Standard Bible

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by alexander284, Apr 18, 2005.

  1. 4risen1

    4risen1 New Member

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    I do not own a copy of the HCSB but it is used in my Sunday school quarterly. In comparison to my version of choice the ESV I have found the HCSB to be a bit too much on the "dynamic equivilence" side for my taste.
     
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    Agreed. It's slightly more literal than the NIV, but too colloquial at times. ;)
     
  3. RON35951

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    I have found a couple of verses in the HCSB that I am not comfortable with. Maybe some of our more scholarly members could comment on these.

    DANIEL 11:37 gives a different reading and is more confusing to me than the other translations.

    DANIEL 11:37He will not show regard for the gods of his fathers, the god longed for by women, or for any other god, because he will magnify himself above all.(HCSB)

    DANIEL 11:37He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all.(NKJV)

    DANIEL 11:37"He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any {other} god; for he will magnify himself above {them} all.(NAS)


    In John 3:16 the words "in this way" are added. Does this change the meaning for anyone else?

    John 3:16"For God loved the world in this way: He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. (HCSB)

    John 3:16"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.(NASB)

    John 3:16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.(NKJV)
     
  4. Ed Edwards

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    JOhn 3:16 (KJV1769 with strong's numbers):

    For1063 God2316 so3779 loved25 the3588 world,2889 that5620
    he gave1325 his848 only begotten3439 Son,5207 that2443 whosoever3956
    believeth4100 in1519 him846 should not3361 perish,622 but235
    have2192 everlasting166 life.2222

    G3779
    οὕτω
    houtō
    hoo'-to
    Or, before a vowel, οὕτως houtōs hoo'-toce.
    From G3778; in this way (referring to what precedes or follows): - after that, after (in) this manner, as, even (so), for all that, like (-wise), no more, on this fashion (-wise), so (in like manner), thus, what.

    John 3:16 (HCSB):
    "For God loved the world in this way: He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.

    What follows is a description of the way
    in which God loved the world. The HCSB
    is much clear and 'in' with 21st century
    Christian thought and 21st century language.
     
  5. alexander284

    alexander284 Well-Known Member

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    Definitely! I think the NAB is one of the better translations available to us. [​IMG]
     
  6. TC

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    Are you sure? The New American Bible (NAB) is a purely Catholic Bible which includes the apocrapha and is different from the New American Standard Bible (NASB) which was translated by conservative evangelical scholars.
     
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    Now, back to the subject. I have the HCSB and have found parts that I would question, but I have not found anything so bad that would cause me to dismiss the it. I enjoy the ease of reading and really like the fact that it is more literal than the NIV. Like all English translations, it has its strengths and weaknesses.
     
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    Are you sure? The New American Bible (NAB) is a purely Catholic Bible which includes the apocrapha and is different from the New American Standard Bible (NASB) which was translated by conservative evangelical scholars. </font>[/QUOTE]Would you define "purely Catholic Bible"? :confused:
     
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    The New American Bible was translated by an almost Catholic translation team for use as an English Catholic Bible. It contains the apocrapha and is only sold in Catholic editions - hence, I call it a purely Catholic Bible.
     
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    The New American Bible was translated by an almost Catholic translation team for use as an English Catholic Bible. It contains the apocrapha and is only sold in Catholic editions - hence, I call it a purely Catholic Bible. </font>[/QUOTE]Understood.

    However, I still think it is one of the better translations. (Just skip the apochrapha.) [​IMG]
     
  11. Gold Dragon

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    You don't have to skip it. Treat it the same way Jerome, the reformers and the KJV Translators treated it: Jewish writings of secondary inspirational value.
     
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    You don't have to skip it. Treat it the same way Jerome, the reformers and the KJV Translators treated it: Jewish writings of secondary inspirational value. </font>[/QUOTE]Guess you're right. Didn't Jude quote from the apochrypha? [​IMG]
     
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    I have not read an NAB, what does John 3:16, John 3:5-8, John 14:6, Romans 6:23, etc. say? If the message is Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to salvation, then someone could be saved reading it.
     
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    The NAB is a good translation. It is written in simple, straightforward language. It is more literal than the NIV. [​IMG]
     
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    I agree with you 100%, McGyver! But I also agree with those who say they think the HCSB was economically inspired by the SBC.
     
  16. Ed Edwards

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    I wish i'd known that before
    my purchase [​IMG]

    I paid like $48 plus shipping for an actual
    KJV1611 edition reprint (Roman letter fount,
    not Gothic).
    I paid $15 (no shipping) for an HCSB :(
    (both editions are the plain text with
    translator notes but NO comentary.

    Who is out for the money? Nelson or Holman?
     
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