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Hovind video

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by franklinmonroe, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. Chessic

    Chessic New Member

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    "Correct usage:
    They're their own worse enemy there."

    I believe you meant "worst." Please "read before you write."
     
  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    I think its time we all stop the English, grammar, and spelling corrections. We all make those mistakes sometimes and it is petty to keep correcting each other.
     
  3. Chessic

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    I'm game to stop. I believe we shouldn't all be held to the highest grammatical standard in informal and emotional writing (I certainly don't carefully proof my writing here). Clarity is the goal. That being said, I correct grammar for a living and I'd be happy to go nuts with it if others wish to.
     
  4. robycop3

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    Those who holler about 'omitted' verses have offered no proof that some other version hasn't ADDED the material they claim is left out.
     
  5. Chessic

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    Agreed. I'd even say the fact that the KJV translators were so adamant about including the Apocrypha and even arranged for laws barring its removal from KJV Bibles is evidence of their desire to throw in everything they had, well-supported or not.
     
  6. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you, I need all the help I can get.
    I'm just an ol' sinner boy saved by the Grace
    of God. I also used to be a Quality Assurance
    person (a fancy name for 'proof reader') I can
    see grammar errors a mile off - I have to be 'hands on' to
    make errors ;)
     
  7. EdSutton

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    "Let's try 'I think it's time we all stop the English, grammatical, and spelling corrections?'
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    What?? Who?? Lil' ol' me???? Pett...???" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    Signed, Language Cop
     
  8. DJ N'LyTe

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    I havent ignored the 500 if you look back I apologized for that mistake and corrected myself.
    the copyright isnt just for written material.
    and the argument about noone attacking me personally I disagree look back but anyways my pastor once told me when I had this disagreement with him when I said to someone something they took offensive but argued that I didnt he told me its not what you said its how they took it.
     
  9. rbell

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    Correct...it's not just for written...but it does not apply to unrecorded, orally delivered sermons:

    I'm having trouble following your sentence here...but it sounds like your pastor said, "It's not what you said, it's how they took it."

    Sometimes, it is what you say. We must take responsibility for what we say, and how we say it.
     
  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    You keep saying you first said 200 words, for which you have apologised. You however keep saying 500 words - its 500 verses. That is quite a difference.

    If you can point out a personal attack on you in a PM to me I will remove it. I just cant find anything I can see as an attack.
     
  11. johnjudge

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    This is a very interesting thread franklinmonroe. and some strange responses from Ed Edwards about the KJ Bible & taxes.

    A lot of "facts" are being tossed around, along with calling out people...nice Christian example folks! Anyhow, may I ask where everyone is getting their facts from? I would be interested in reading them...

    As for grammar, it is the Internet not a class. Don't bother me at all....LOL!
     
  12. Ed Edwards

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    I've been attending Bulletin Boards (bbs) since
    late June 1984 -- 24&½-years.
    Here is what I discovered:

    The Prime Directive of Bulletin Boards (bbs):

    Read Before
    You Write


    My cheap there-their-they're test flushes out
    those spirits who eschew corrections.
    (Like a hound dog flushes out a covey of quail.)

    1 John 4:1 (Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition):
    Dearely beloued, beleeue not euery spirit,
    but trie the spirits whether they are of God:
    for many false prophets are gone
    out into this worlde.


    Yes, I do have the Spiritual Gift (for which God will NOT
    repent) of Discernment.

    Discernment -- an unnatural Gift of the Holy Spirit
    whereby the Spirit witnesses to the person with
    the gift if an action is:

    1. Of the deamons
    2. Of God
    3. Merely human

    My Gift works mainly on the Internet
    (thought it also works also when I witness
    to a person about Salvation) Praise the Lord,
    but His Spiritual Gifts aren't given for interesting
    TV progams but to Futher the Kingdoms of God.
     
  13. franklinmonroe

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    John, do require any additional facts from me? Please specify and I will reply. Much of my Hovind rebuttal is just the straightening out of historical facts available in many encyclopedias. Hovind tended to mismatch various facts in this video in a misleading fashion.
     
  14. Armchair Scholar

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    Gail Riplinger is primarily responsible for the "can't preach more than 200 words from your NIV" nonsense. It clearly states at the front of any NIV that up to 500 VERSES (not WORDS) may be quoted in print form before permission is sought to use more. Verse limitation has nothing whatsoever to do with verbally quoting any Bible translation. It's not "against the law." Riplinger says the same thing about the NASB, as well. To prove her error I wrote to the Lockman Foundation to clarify if it was words or verses and whether it was verbal quoting or quoting in publishing. Of course, it has to do with quoting in publishing form only and pertains to number of VERSES not WORDS.

    I just can't stand misinformation and misrepresentation when I see it because it all too often lends itself to confusing people.
     
  15. PK

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    Why don't you call him. I'm sure he would love to set up a debate over this issue.
     
  16. Armchair Scholar

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    To all the above, I say a huge AMEN. Very well explained.
     
  17. Armchair Scholar

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    Wait, isn't Hovind still in prison? Perhaps a bit of debating will help give him something to do while he passes the time.

    Sorry to be coming onto this topic this late but that's what happens when you're kinda new here. I'm catching up on all the interesting posts.
     
  18. EdSutton

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    While I find nothing about being in prison in any way amusing, this line has me splitting my sides, just because of the wording.

    Ed
     
  19. Armchair Scholar

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    Well, might he not be rather bored in there when he is used to lecturing and even debating?

    BTW, when is he due to get out? Does anyone know?
     
  20. Baptist4life

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    Hey ededwards kin ewe straten thiz outte fur me? i cain't git thes gramur thang figgured outte! im sew gladde ur sech a nyce chrystan man hulpin us awl outte hure!


    You're coming across a little arrogant there, Ed!:thumbs:
     
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