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How about the Albigenses

Discussion in 'Baptist History' started by faithcontender, Nov 18, 2003.

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  1. faithcontender

    faithcontender New Member

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    Here's a description of who they are and what they believe as described by experienced inquisitor:

    They claim to be the true christians and successors of the apostles. They also emphasized holy living.

    They believed that baptism and Lord's supper are just symbols. They attacked the doctrine of transubtantiation, baptismal regeneration, Image and relics worship, confession to priest and other catholic sacraments.

    They were labelled "heretics" because according to the catholics they held to manichaen beliefs. In some baptist history books they were considered baptists.

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/gui-cathars.html

    What do you think about them?
     
    #1 faithcontender, Nov 18, 2003
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    Hi Matt,

    Thanks for the link! [​IMG]
     
    #3 faithcontender, Nov 19, 2003
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    Thanks, Matt.

    I am dubious about them, but I acknowledge that much of what we know comes from their enemies. What we can know is not encouraging: dualism and faulty Christology.

    Some links from the same site faithcontender posted:

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/heresy1.html

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/caesarius-heresies.html#CHAPTER XXI

    John Christian treats them as proto-baptists. Vedder is careful to draw a distinction between reformers and dualists, which the Latin Rite church treated as the same.

    And nothing, from our modern point of view, justifies the barbarities inflicted upon them by the existing order.

    "Not proven", as the old Scots legal system would say, is my opinion (for the time being.)
     
    #4 rsr, Nov 20, 2003
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