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How can someone who is pro-life support Rudy Guiliani?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Ken, do you really think that the powers behind the fed reserve and that of powerful special interests like AIPAC and the military industrial complex would allow Ron Paul to be president? He has already spoke out about the FR and military adventurism. In this country nobody is going to be allowed to hold the office of president unless they frst bend their knee to lick the boots of those who are really in power and call the shots.

    Don't get me wrong I'd love to see Ron Paul be POTUS I just think that isn't going to happen because he isn't willing to sell this country out from under the American people for a handful of silver like the other candidates he would run against. It's a nice dream but it ain't gonna happen. While it makes for interesting and emotionally charged debate his stance on abortion or any other issues for that matter doesn't matter anymore than any other candidates. When it comes to holding the office of president of the U.S. the only repeat only stance that matters is whether or not the candidate is willing to be a servant of the elite. What the people want doesn't even enter into it anymore. Haven't you figured that out yet? Haven't any of you figured that out yet?
     
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    We know how the story ends, they get total control and it is Jesus Christ that gets the ultimate victory and replaces these worldly wicked governments with a true and righteous thousand year millenial kingdom. However, when I stand before the judgment seat, I don't want to be one of those that sided with the elites and their unrighteous gov't and I don't want to be one of those that says the conclusion was inevitable so I didn't think it was worth fighting. Finally, I don't want to be an Esau and forsake the Republic that Godly men (and some wicked ones) set-up, even though I know that most of the citizens of this nation have done this for they have forgotten their God and forgotten their history. Political shifts only occur after theological shifts. If this people will humbly pray and turn their backs on their wicked ways then it is possible that God will bless a Ron Paul or someone similar who will separate the influence of the Fed and perhaps we'll see a revival in this land. If instead, we continue down the current path we are on, then judgment will continue to be upon this land. In the meantime, we should fight the fights that are worth fighting not necessarily the fights we can win.
     
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    :thumbs: : Yep!Agree with that a 1000%
     
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    Excellent post, Rufus.
     
  5. poncho

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    Good post but what exactly does it mean? Who do we fight and how do we do it? Please explain.
     
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    We fight when we vote. You see a secret society who puts people they want in, I say God's ultimately in control.

    Just think, if you write in Ron Paul, then you get struck by a bus on yer way out of the voting booth, you'll not get stuck trying to explain a vote for Rudy to the Allmighty.
     
  7. poncho

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    Yeah well Diebold and ES&S took the fight out of your hands then.

    I can't imagine me or anyone else trying to explain to God what he already knows.

    Secret society? Who needs a secret society when all it takes is big money and promises of perks and promotions to buy up politicians on both sides of the aisle? If you have a democrat and a republican that are both in the same pocket what difference does it make which one you vote for it isn't like he is going to put your will over that of his benefactor. Who among us voted for open borders or the North American Union? Which of us voted for the roads and other infrastructure that we paid for to be handed out to foreign companies? Which of us voted for our jobs to be outsorced?
     
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    I'm voting for him, (Tancredo, perhaps), no matter who's on the ticket. I can just pray, & spread the word.

    We voted for our jobs to be outsourced when we established the unconstitutional E.P.A. Labor unions pushed the rest of the way. That was the beginning. When you make it impossible to manufacture anything here, people move their business elsewhere. We gave the government all this power, now we cry that they have it. And I know, I voted for them for 24 years, I voted Bubba twice, I take my share of the blame.

    The explaining part was kinda a joke, I thought you'd get it.

    I hate to even be remotely understood to endorse a violent overthrow of the standing govt, but we are headed for a civil war, I think.
     
  9. poncho

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    Our government has already been overthrown by stealth. What is standing there in D.C. is a government of by and for the internationalists that think a free and sovereign America stands in the way of their global government. I don't know about a civil war but we sure are heading down the road to an economic collapse and a full fledged dictatorship. That should put an end to fueding over which candidate stands for what then and we'll all be able to agree on the same thing for once.
     
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