How do we know that God loves everybody?

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Find your self in a solid Bible Believing and Teaching Baptist Church. Or find any other solid Bible Believing and Teaching Church. But, find a solid one.

Ya' need it.

Wayne

 

You've answered your own question. Why spend time on the website of a disturbed person? You cannot change his mind any more than I can change yours.

Matthew 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5

 

Although I totally disagree with Fred Phelps methods and do not consider him a brother in Christ, he's right in that nowhere in the Bible does God say he loves all human beings equally the same.

Phrases like "God hates the sin but loves the sinner" and "God helps those who help themselves" are not to be found in the Bible either to the best of my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong).

It may come as a surprise to many people but God is under no obligation to love everyone equally or even to love them at all. God is not a socialist.

So what do you do? Repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ if you haven't done so already. God will love those who seek to know him and walk with him. :love2:

 

God is outside of time and could see Esau sell his birthright before he was ever born.

He created man (all men) in His own image and after His own likeness and is supposed to hate him?

 

You are correct...but Jesus being called a "friend of sinners" is, and would seem to tell us that He doesn't hate them. You "hate" any of your friends?

 

If you loved your children would you send them to Hell for eternity if they offended you or would you continually work to reconcile them to you?

 

I think Esau had lost the likeness of God when he sold his birthright. The Scripture says God hated Esau so who am I to say He didn't. Also, He hated the deeds of the Nicholadeons (if I spelled that right).
Judas was the Son of Perdition which is the devil and God hates the devil. Some people have their conscious seared with a heart iron and would do anything except worship God for without a conscious they wouldn't be able to worship God but have a hardness of heart. I think Esau represents the sinful flesh and God hates sin.

 

The word "hate" in the Bible doesn't always mean the same thing as we know it. Jesus says that if we hate...meaning opposite of love...we are murderers. God "hating" in the sense you are using it would make God a murderer...a sinner, therefore not God.

 

I know that the concept is there in the Bible about Jesus being a friend of sinners, I wasn't saying that. It just concerns me when I keep hearing phrases being attributed to God as if they were Bible verses. Some new Christians might be inclined to think they are.

Does Jesus love unrepentent sinners? Scripture would seem to indicate that he does not. I'm not saying he hates them, but he may not have any feelings for them at all. Just like you can enjoy a fine meal at a restaurant without thinking about the fact that people are starving in Africa.

Just speculation, don't take me too seriously.

 

How do we know that God loves everybody?

How do we know?

Jesus loves me this I know,
For the Bible tells me so.

(John 3:16; Romans 5:8)

 

Read. Yes, God is capable of hate....

psalm 5:4 -

4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

No amount of watering down the meaning of the word hate can mean it to be any other but an emotion of intense dislike, a detesting of someone or something.

Also, I do not agree with Fred Phelps in many things, including his maniacal dislike of sodomites and lesbians, but he is right in saying that God hates fags. What is wrong with this language is the last word, which is basically a street word (?), but what if he titled his website "God hates sodomy" or "God hates homosexuality", will we even raise an eyebrow ?

Are we going to deny that God does hate sodomy, so that in the Old Testament, sodomites were stoned to death (to purge society) and in the New Testament Paul warned the effeminates will not inherit the kingdom of God ?

I just could not understand, even when I was Arminian, how God could love the world and all mankind, send his Son to save "all mankind", and then, in the end, destroy the world He says He loves, and punish men who do not accept His work in Christ.

It seems to me if God loved mankind so much to send His own Son to death on the cross, and watch Him suffering, then He would do everything in His power to make sure that sacrifice does not go to naught, and work things out for His beloved mankind, so that, indeed, they do not get sent to hell and suffer His wrath, which is the reason Christ died on the cross in the first place.

 

He did He work things out. He gave every man a chance to believe or reject Christ; to make their own choice--to choose Heaven or Hell. Is it God's fault that some choose Hell over Heaven? Why do you blame God for the evil in the world?

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Concerning Psalms 5, from which you quoted, it is an "imprecatory psalm," a class of psalms that is difficult that is difficult for most people to understand. In these psalms the pslamist prays for judgment. But it is God's judgment. He is speaking forth almost prophetically the judgement that will come upon the nation spoken of. These are not examples of prayer that the New Testament believer ought to follow. They are a class of their own demonstrating the judgement and wrath of God.

Psalms 109:1-17 <<To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.>> Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;
2 For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause.
4 For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer.
5 And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.
6 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.
12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.
13 Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
15 Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
16 Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart.
17 As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him.

I trust you would not pray such a prayer as this today. It is an example of an imprecatory psalm. In very vivid language it expresses the judgment of God upon sin.
Keep in mind that God always loves the sinner, but he hates the sin (as you mentioned--sodomy) He destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah for the sin that they were committing. But he still loved the people. Judgement is always against sin. There is a consequence for sin, even according to our own justice system. We hate murder. And if a murderer is put to death, love may go out to that man, but we hate the sin that he has done. I hope that helps.
DHK

 

Fred Phelps is not a good example of a Christian. He has web sites such as Godhatesamerica.com and Godhatescanada.com. In the FAQ section, someone asked Fred Phelps if God hates all countries, and he said that He does. His websites are some of the last places I would look for spiritual guidance.