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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Yeshua1, Jul 25, 2012.

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  1. Moriah

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    No, we do not.
     
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    You do it first, by example for us all.
    Try to obey just this one command first:

    Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

    To be sure of the meaning let's make a better application:
    "Let no corrupt communication come off of your keyboard, but that..."
     
  3. Moriah

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    You still would not believe.
     
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    It is not a matter of believing; it is a matter of seeing (at least with this command). I have observed some posters that have always posted in grace, and to my observation, have never said a nasty word to anyone in all the years they have been here. It is possible. But you attack people, call them names, even tell them they are unsaved, all of which is against the rules. You cannot keep even this one command.
     
  5. Moriah

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    All you keep doing is accusing me.
     
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    I don't accuse you at all. This is a debate forum. You lose a debate, and then you throw a personal insult at me. That is the way it goes. That is sin, Moriah. Learn it!

    Here is what happened. Pay attention.

    I didn't accuse you of anything.
    I showed you where you were wrong. You don't accept it.
     
  7. Moriah

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    You just cannot stop yourself.
     
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    Let me ask you again:
     
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    You just cannot stop yourself.
     
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  11. Moriah

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    Can you love them without obeying them?
    Do you obey them?

    Here is only one:

    14. I resolve never to allow anything but total integrity in everything I say. (5:12)

    Do you follow that, especially in the way that you have misrepresented others today. Think of what you have said about me and others when discussing Calvinism.
     
  13. Moriah

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    You are so exposed.
     
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    Moriah, I readily admit that I sin. I have to go to the Lord on a daily basis. But you don't admit that. You haven't exposed me at all.

    Naught have I gotten but what I received;
    Grace hath bestowed it since I have believed;
    Boasting excluded, pride I abase;
    I’m only a sinner, saved by grace!

    Only a sinner, saved by grace!
    Only a sinner, saved by grace!
    This is my story, to God be the glory—
    I’m only a sinner, saved by grace!

    James M. Gray wrote those words in 1905. That is my story as well. What is yours?

    Are you a sinner?
     
  15. Moriah

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    I believe it that you are a sinner. It is obvious to those who can see.
    Now, stop making posts against me with all kinds of accusations. Is that your job to keep accusing me of things?
     
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    In the last two posts:
    1. You twice made personal accusations against me, while I made none against you.

    2. I simply asked you a question which I got no answer.

    3. I admitted to you that I was a sinner, hardly an accusation of any kind.

    When are you ready to answer questions posed to you and enter into any meaningful debate?
     
  17. Moriah

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    I am not making personal accusation against you I am defending myself.

    You do not “simply” ask me questions, you make these posts about me personally, and that is wrong.

    If you wanted a meaningful debate, you would stop derailing threads in this way.
     
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    Back in post #81 you had made the ridiculous statement "just stop sinning." You made it earlier than that in fact, to Wittenberger. It is fact that all of us know that we can't stop sinning. Since then you even have admitted that you are not sinless. So why set yourself up in telling a person to do something he cannot do?
    You took this conversation off course once you put yourself in that position.

    If you tell a person to stop sinning then you believe it must be possible.
    Therefore, shortly after that, I responded in post #81
    Demonstrate that you can go even one day without sinning by the responses you make on this board.

    Instead of taking me seriously, you simply said:
    I wouldn't believe you.

    You have to be willing to intelligently to discuss a subject, whether it be one related to the sinful nature of man, entire sanctification, sinlessness, or sanctification.
     
  19. Moriah

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    The Bible tells us to stop sinning, but you say to God no we cannot.

    I have given up many sins. People can and should give up sins.


    You derail the threads by making false accusations about me.


    Of course, it is possible.
    Jesus tells us to stop sinning. We are told to stop sinning many times.

    Here you go again.

    Stop falsely accusing me. Stop making up things about me, and we can discuss the topics.
     
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    IMO, you are deceived.
    1. You cannot go through one day, if not even one hour without sinning.
    2. You cannot keep the two great commandments that Christ gave us.
    Giving up many sins is not giving up sin completely. There is a big difference. One is reformation; the other is a heresy known as entire sanctification. The only time that will come true in a person's life is when they get out of this carnal body plagued with sin, and get to heaven.
    You take the least doctrinal explanation as an accusation, so your accusation is wrong. For example, my explanation above you will probably take as a personal insult, but it is an explanation of your doctrine.
    Yes he does. That doesn't make it possible. It makes it a goal for every believer. The Bible also says for husbands to love their wives even as Christ also loved the church.
    Are you married. Do you love your wife as much as Christ loved the church? Do you think any man can? It is a goal we can set for ourselves. Christ is our example. But my love can never match the love that Christ had for us, never! It is impossible.
    What did I accuse you of in the last part of that post? What are you accusing me of? Be specific!
    Or is this just another false accusation from you, and your continual complaining attitude.
     
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