1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

How does your Bible translate here?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by gopchad, Nov 11, 2004.

  1. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    14,362
    Likes Received:
    668
    Faith:
    Baptist
    It's a bird...it's a plane...no, wait...it's...it's...it's...it's CUSS MAN!!!!

    I AM THE MASTER OF WORDY DIRDS! I HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE A DIRTY WORD CLEAN AND A CLEAN WORD DIRTY, USING MY ACME WORD-O-MATIC DIRT DISSER-DISPENSER! HAS ANY MAN EVER HAD SUCH POWER BEFORE? BWA-HA-HA-HA!

    Now, SERIOUSLY......


    Here's an example of how some "bad words" became everyday usage by Christian and lost alike.

    In the time if the civil war, many southern blacks and some of other races used the slang "jass" for seminal emission. Eventually, it came to mean not just that, but became a euphemism for...STUFF... much as the 4-letter "S" word is used today. Also, its pronunciation became "jazz".

    When some musicians began playing that form of music, many Southerners asked, "What's that JAZZ you playin?" Soon the name stuck, and the word quickly became acceptable all over the world as the music became popular.

    ROCK-N-ROLL was slang for having sex inside a car, with the phrase generally limited to the younger people, and considered vulgar in most of the USA. DJ Alan Freed first applied the term to pop music in 1951 or 1952 on his broadcasts, and, given his immense popularity among the teens of the day, both black and white, the term soon stuck...and I believe we all know all the uses it has today!

    As for "piss"...It's from Old French and Middle English. As for "urinate", it's from Greek "ourein", same meaning. Seems both words were acceptable in KJ's time, but the former was much-more-used than the latter.
     
  2. Ransom

    Ransom Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2000
    Messages:
    4,132
    Likes Received:
    1
    manchester said:

    That are much worse verses than that one.

    Ezekiel 23:20


    Funny you should bring this verse up. Years ago, I encountered a KJV-onlyist on a BBS who insisted the NIV's more graphic translation of this verse was an obscenity that profaned God's word. (I agree that it is an obscenity, but it is a holy obscenity rather than a profane one.)

    Yet only a few days later, in the very same thread, he was defending the KJV's frequent use of "piss" over and against the softer renderings found in other English Bibles.

    Well, you never expect to find consistency in the KJV-onlyists. [​IMG]

    Seriously, it does seem to be a weak point in contemporary English that one cannot translate such passages directly and literally without resorting to vulgarity. "They that pee against the wall" (or even "urinate") just doesn't make the point quite the same as the KJV does here.
     
  3. Craigbythesea

    Craigbythesea Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    5,535
    Likes Received:
    21
    Excellent Point! But if I could change the name of a Bible, I would change the name of the Holman Christian Standard Bible :eek: to the “Southern Baptist Paraphrase of the Bible.” And anyone who thinks that a Southern Baptist paraphrase of the Bible :eek: is superior to the “Authorized Version” [​IMG] needs to visit his psychiatrist on a more frequent basis. [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Craigbythesea

    Craigbythesea Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    5,535
    Likes Received:
    21
    Which one of those old-fashioned words is the old-fashioned word for “Anglican”?

    I had one of those “Newly Tranflated out of the Originall tongues & with former Tranflations diligently compared and reuifed by his Majefties fpeciall Commandment” Bibles but it was so old, big, and heavy that I threw it away when I bought my new Bible at Wal-Mart, and it says right in it, “Authorized (King James) Version.” Oh, now I get it, King James was an Anglican. :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Phillip

    Phillip <b>Moderator</b>

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    6,708
    Likes Received:
    0
    That's a new one! I have a large collection of Bibles, but I don't have one called the "Anglican Version." Does anyone know where I can buy one? Is it anything like the "Authorized Version"?

    [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]Only if it is the 1611 Authorized Version -- the REAL one, you know...the one with the apocrypha. [​IMG]
     
  6. Craigbythesea

    Craigbythesea Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    5,535
    Likes Received:
    21
    What!!! :eek:

    Wal-Mart ripped me off!!! :mad: All them pages are missing from my new Bible!!! :mad: Where is the closest K-Mart?

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2000
    Messages:
    30,285
    Likes Received:
    507
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Anglican Version is the meaning of AV isn't it? I mean, NO BAPTIST would have been caught dead with that version. It was anathema to them.

    When the Pilgrims came to New England in 1620, how many copies of the Anglican Version did they bring?

    NONE

    Until the Crown/Church forbid the printing and importing of the Geneva Version and FORCED people to buy it, the Anglican Version was rejected by conservative evangelical folk. That is history and can't be rewritten.

    THEN Baptists used it and appreciated it, but realized it was NOT a "baptist" version. Until the Holman came out . . .
     
  8. av1611jim

    av1611jim New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2002
    Messages:
    3,511
    Likes Received:
    0
    Does anybody know of a Mehtodist version? How about the Nazarene version? Or maybe the Pentecostal version? The Assemblies of God version? My soul! :rolleyes:

    By the way, ( memory is a bit fuzzy so all you perfessers hep me ok?) the Baptist version came out in the mid 1800's. It was the Immersionist version.

    In His service;
    Jim
     
  9. Craigbythesea

    Craigbythesea Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    5,535
    Likes Received:
    21
    . . . with their watered-down, unbiblical, paraphrase! : ( Why do the Baptists down yonder think that they have to imitate Kenneth Taylor?)

    [​IMG]
     
Loading...