How Ironic, Christians are Pathetic - Read

Do you feel more righteous now. Wanna Fight.........

Joseph Botwinick

 

Cubex, Yes, as a whole, a sorry lot we are indeed.
It's good we have a loving Father who can see us as we will be not as we are, but who we are in Christ, clothed in His righteousness.

Funny Joseph, but this is too true to laugh at.
It's in our church. Our pastor was talking to the congregation this morning about the damage that is done. Very sad...

God bless you,
mercy

 

I agree, CubeX, we are a sorry lot indeed. Just this morning the pastor was talking about the same thing, and about love, about I Corinthians 13.

We can know all the correct theology in the world, but unless we have love, we have nothing.

That includes reaching out to the lost around us and reaching out in love to our brothers and sisters in Christ, across denominational lines.

We focus on the trivial. Theology won't get anyone to heaven, only the Blood of Jesus Christ will.

 

Absolutely I agree, we are so divided most of the time that the world just looks at us as hypocrites anyway, because we talk about loving your neighbor, but we don't show it.

 

Just rememeber Mt. 7:15-23, "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. "So then, you will know them by their fruits. "Not everyone who says to Me, `Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. "Many will say to Me on that day, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.'

And Jn. 13:35, ""By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

 

You are right, we are pathetic. Even God said man at his best state is all together vanity. We would much rather listen to jokes, play trivial games, and sit and type harsh words and accusations at each other, than witness. If we spent as much time with the Lord and doing His work as we were on the board, a revival would break out all across our great land!!!

 

Walls,
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Thanks couldn't help all the posts. Who knew it would post so many times?

 

CubeX, I posted recently about how many SBC preachers have admitted that they have never, on a one to one basis, led a person to Christ. I also posted about how many churches (SBC) this past year didn't baptize even one person. I got some pretty 'short' replies to my 'insinuations'.

Evangelism is a command! If we listen to the Holy Spirit, He'll open our eyes to opportunities to witness whenever and whereever we are. I think a lot of people are 'uncomfortable' with witnessing and just want to leave it up to preachers and missionaries.

If you think this is sad... we have over 5,000 members and no one needs prayer??? Oh I know, I read the requests and pray for the needs but don't reply there but I'm just shocked at how few prayer requests we get.

Diane

 

Personally, I believe that time spent on this Board can be witnessing. We do not know who is reading our posts. We do not know whom we are reaching with our posts. That is the reason that our moderators and administrators keep this a Christian/Baptist Board. (I appreciate that very much)

I am still amazed that people think that debating is fighting! It becomes fighting when a poster attacks the person and not the subject.
There is a difference. If we were all in agreement, we would never learn. It is easy to agree.

As to prayer requests, Diane, we all need prayer and it should be a standing request that we pray for each other. I think that some people do not post their prayer requests because of privacy and others because they may think their need is insignificant compared to others.

I will now get off my "soap box"

 

Not to change the subject, but I for one would be afraid to post a prayer request. Everything I say on here seems to get twisted or held against me!

 

Maybe that is why some like to preach so much. I have been in churches where it is amazing how every sermon becomes a salvation mesage. Pick a different text and preach away from the text to John 3:16.

Just think about the people who listen to them each week. In the last church I pastored most of the deacons admitted that they were not even reading their Bibles. Some even said they did not have time to even visit people. They lived that out well.

Years ago a search committee called me and asked if I was still interested in them. I told the lady, "Yes." She then asked me if I visited people. I told her I did. She told me, "Good because the men in our church don't have time to go visiting." That was the second time she called me. I noticed that the woman was talking with me while her husband was in the background. Near the end of our conversation I told her I was no longer interested. She was surprised. I told her that she didn't need me to do ministry for them. I expected them to do it with me. I don't want to pastor a church where the men will no lead. If the men are that passive then they don't need a pastor they need to get busy and start leading. Sometimes we must go down before we come up. It is not the pastor's job to do ministry for them. But it is the pastor's job to lead them by example.

Imagine if so many pastors never share their faith how many never disciple anyone.

 

Not to change the subject, but I for one would be afraid to post a prayer request. Everything I say on here seems to get twisted or held against me! </font>[/QUOTE]I may not agree with every thing said here but I will ask for prayer and I believe people will and do pray for me even if we don't always agree. Walls I would pray for you any time you ask whether I agree with you or not, and I really believe others would too. All you have to do is ask.

 

I disagree with the "get off the internet" statement. The internet gets millions of visitors a day. Why can't it be used as a means of witnessing? I know for a fact it has helped many. The amount of time I've spent reading my bible seems to have doubled since I've started reading the posts on this board and other Christian sites. Perhaps it's because I'm on the computer a lot (I work in IT and I have to do tons of research for school), but I really disagree with that statement.

I also think this is a good and useful thread. There were a number of other threads that I read that went from "good debating" to "bad fighting" and I just stopped reading the thread.

My pastor relayed a story of how he witnessed to one of his friends for over 20 years. He didn't push, he didn't argue, he just visited often and let him know how much the Lord loves him. It took 20 years, but his friend eventually came to know Christ.

Kim

 

Kim S, I totally agree about staying on the Internet. We need Christianity in all media: radio, television, Internet, newspaper, magazines, everywhere. Especially though, the old fashioned word of mouth, one on one evangelism. But since I've been going to Christian websites, I've learned alot, met nice believers, sharpened my discussion skills, improved my writing ability, shared thoughts and faith with others all over the world: this is very much want Jesus wants us to do--go to all the world with the Gospel.