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How many Arminians on the board?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by TCassidy, Apr 12, 2005.

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  1. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
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    I have met a couple of them that gladly wear the name "Arminian." Both of them were from the Wesleyan Church which is unabashedly Arminian.

    But as most people don't know what the 5 points of Arminianism are, they don't realize that what they believe lines up quite nicely with the 5 points of the Remonstrance. [​IMG]
     
  2. whetstone

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    I have met a couple of them that gladly wear the name "Arminian." Both of them were from the Wesleyan Church which is unabashedly Arminian.

    But as most people don't know what the 5 points of Arminianism are, they don't realize that what they believe lines up quite nicely with the 5 points of the Remonstrance. [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]well that's what i mean. if they actually KNEW what it meant to be an arminian they would realize that they actually ARE arminians. They just reject the title because they think we're calling names or creating false labels. heck- i woulda thought that. but again- i was ignorant. sometimes i wish i had studied the issue out earlier, but then- everything happens on God's timetable.
     
  3. Timtoolman

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    I have met a couple of them that gladly wear the name "Arminian." Both of them were from the Wesleyan Church which is unabashedly Arminian.

    But as most people don't know what the 5 points of Arminianism are, they don't realize that what they believe lines up quite nicely with the 5 points of the Remonstrance. [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]well that's what i mean. if they actually KNEW what it meant to be an arminian they would realize that they actually ARE arminians. They just reject the title because they think we're calling names or creating false labels. heck- i woulda thought that. but again- i was ignorant. sometimes i wish i had studied the issue out earlier, but then- everything happens on God's timetable.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Its not the name whetstone, read the post on this board. It is the dishonesty of the debate when one says they do not agree with arminius on many things, yet it seems (like JW's) that they are program to use arguement A. for this or arguement B. for this so that when they come up against someone who does not fit that label they go crashing forward building the strawman without real honest debate. It is the dishonesty that is frustrating not the name. If you really want to irrate them then call'em a calvnist.
    [​IMG]
     
  4. dianetavegia

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    How many Arminians on the board?

    I am Arminian. 10% (2)

    I am not Arminian 90% (19)
     
  5. ILUVLIGHT

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    Cassidy;
    Actually there were 7 points the Calvinist presented to the Arminians 5.
    Let's not forget Salvation by Baptism and Inherited election. Both of these points have been dropped by present day Calvinist. However it just goes to show that Calvinism wavers like a reed in the wind. We can't really expect anything less from Calvinism founded on the root of Catholicism. We still cannot get good fruit from a rotten tree. After all the Calvinist's mentor stated there is no Salvation apart from the church.
    May Christ Shine His Light On Us all;
    Mike [​IMG]
     
  6. dianetavegia

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    Does that include John Calvin's assertion concerning infant baptism being scriptural?
     
  7. ILUVLIGHT

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    Hi Diane;
    I believe it does include infant baptism.
    It's really to bad that most Calvinist haven't read the insitiutes of Christianity. Who knows it might cause them to see the truth that Calvinism, obviously isn't.
    May Christ Shine His Light On us all;
    Mike [​IMG]
     
  8. TCassidy

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    I am sorry, Diane, but ILUVLIGHT is deceiving you (again).

    The Canons of the Synod of Dordt can be found in several places on the internet including here http://www.reformed.org/documents/index.html?mainframe=synod_of_dort.html and by reading them you will see there are Five Heads Of Doctrine in the original text of 1619 and not seven as ILUVLIGHT falsely claims.

    And by reading the canons you will see that baptism is only mentioned in the conclusion and that only to counteract the lies being told about Reformed Church doctrine (it seems some things never change :( ) Here is the only statement in the text of 1619 that contains the word "baptism"
    It seems that the lies being told about the Reformed doctrine in 1619 are still being told. :(
     
  9. dianetavegia

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    I was being facetious, Dr. Cassidy.

     
  10. dianetavegia

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    Non-Arminian's are in the lead by a large majority.

    How many Arminians on the board?

    I am Arminian. 15% (4)

    I am not Arminian 85% (23)
     
  11. ILUVLIGHT

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    Hi T cassidy;
    Are you prepared to eat your own words. No where did I mention canons but was talking about the answer to the aminians. The Counter Remonstrance contained 7 articles 5 points of doctrine 7 answers to the remonstrance the second and third having been combine with unconditional election and the six and seventh combined under perseverance. and none of which are really the same today.
    I wonder when you get out of bed in the morning do you have to step up?. This is certainly not the only time you have accused me falsely. You have yet again allowed your mouth to runaway with it self. Just no self control.
    Just to show everyone what I originally said;
    For this I get accused of deceitfully misrepersenting the canons of dort which have nothing to do with what I said.
    Sorry cassidy but the label of deceit belongs on your back.
    Maybe you should question your doctor about this seems you might be having hallucinations [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    May Christ Shine His Light On us all;
    Mike [​IMG]
     
  12. TCassidy

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    Duh! The Canons of the Synod of Dordt was the response to the 5 points of the Remonstrance! The Remonstrance was published in 1610 and the Canons of Dordt in 1619 in response to the Remonstrance. The Canons have 5 Heads of doctrine. Not 7. 5.
    Duh! (again). The seven articles of 1611 all dealt with the 5 points of the Remonstrance! There were never 7 points of Calvinism. There are and were only 5. Just because 7 men wrote articles contradicting the 5 points of the Remonstrance does not mean there are 7 points to Calvinism. Got is now?
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  13. webdog

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    Diane, thanks for these polls. At last check there were only 4 who called themselves arminian, and 11 who called themselves calvinists. I believe the big discrepancy is because those who do not agree with the teachings of man don't consider themselves followers of any man. Calvinists are more vocal that they DO follow the teachings of man to a "T".
     
  14. TCassidy

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    Actually most who identify themselves as Calvinists do so as did Charles Spurgeon. They think of "Calvinism" to be shorthand for "the Gospel." They have said over and over and over and over and over again they don't follow the teachings of men but are followers of the Lord Jesus Christ and get their doctrine from the bible, but for some odd reason the anti-calvinists keep saying the same untruth over and over and over and over and over again. :(
     
  15. dianetavegia

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    How many Arminians on the board?

    I am Arminian. 14% (4)

    I am not Arminian 86% (25)
     
  16. dianetavegia

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    Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

    Shorthand for 'the Gospel'????

    shorthand: A system of rapid handwriting employing symbols to represent words, phrases, and letters.
     
  17. TCassidy

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    Yes. If you have a problem with what he said you really should take it up with him. [​IMG]

     
  18. Wes Outwest

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    Spurgeon is wrong!
     
  19. jacob62

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    I am a Jew
     
  20. jacob62

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    If I am a Jew,will I get kicked out again?
     
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