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How much should seminary profs be paid?

Discussion in 'Baptist Colleges & Seminaries' started by UZThD, Oct 9, 2005.

  1. UZThD

    UZThD New Member

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    Of course in answering this, there are several considerations to factor into the answer. EG:

    1) A seminary faculty member with a full professorship not only has completed from 10-12, or more, years of education, the last several being very strenuous, but also has been published fairly frequently, and has taught for at least several years.

    2) Just like everyone else seminary profs have to have a salary in order to live.

    3) But, on the other hand, I think such teaching is a ministry for Christ and for His church.

    4) And again, I think that seminaries should do what they can to control the cost of training for students.

    So, how much do you think Profs should be paid?

    Bill
     
  2. gb93433

    gb93433 Active Member

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    Secular universities are paying roughly between 52 and 65 for a new professor with no experience at the university level. Some are paying more.
     
  3. Bunyon

    Bunyon New Member

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    Considering that a seminary prof is a graduate level prof- 100,000 per year, but with summers off and the right to take sabaticals with pay, I think, I would be willing to do it for less.
     
  4. Plain Old Bill

    Plain Old Bill New Member

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    It depends.Is the seminary well estsablished and in good financial shape?Is this the first teaching assignment?How well established is the seminary? And a bunch of other variables.
     
  5. El_Guero

    El_Guero New Member

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    Good question!

    Is there a known answer?
     
  6. gb93433

    gb93433 Active Member

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    I have been told by some profs that most starting seminary profs make less than most starting pastors.
     
  7. Broadus

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    That is most certainly true of starting Christian college profs. I think it is less true of seminary profs.

    Another consideration, unless it was mentioned and I missed it, is the cost of living of the area in which the seminary is located. LA will be much higher than Wake Forest (SEBTS), for instance.

    But as a general rule, I would think at least 50K plus benefits for a 1st year assistant prof.

    Bill
     
  8. StefanM

    StefanM Well-Known Member

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    50k plus benefits sounds reasonable.
     
  9. TomVols

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    Whatever the microeconomy of the seminary will allow, keeping with good stewardship. Profs are likely elders, so they are worthy of their pay as people who live teaching the Word.

    Why do you ask?
     
  10. UZThD

    UZThD New Member

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    Tom: I don't ask for personal reasons. I am retired and so can give my time w-out pay to help out a seminary.

    But the question is one I've wondered about since the 1990s when a full prof at an RA/ATS seminary mentioned his salary, and I was surprised that it was below mine as a public school teacher.

    I also asked the question to provide some discussion here on an issue different from more common and recurring topics as "Why shoudn't I get a doc from Covington and its like?"
     
  11. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus Well-Known Member

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    $100,000

    plus benefits

    plus a limited 12 hour teaching schedule

    plus an expense account to take student out to eat

    plus a fully paid sabat every five years

    plus a large book allowance per year
     
  12. El_Guero

    El_Guero New Member

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    Did anyone ever figure this out?

    I know that I found some data at ATS - but it WAS DIFFICULT to read what was really being said about salaries.
     
  13. paidagogos

    paidagogos New Member

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    What's a professor worth?

    A reasonable salary probably would be $50,000 plus benefits. As a general rule of thumb, a seminary professor should be commensurate in salary and benefits with a senior pastor among the constituency whom the seminary serves. Furthermore, IMHO, a seminary prof should be an experienced man in the ministry and would probably have served as a senior pastor at some point. The qualifications for a seminary professor include character, wisdom and experience—he is not a mere academic.
     
  14. greek geek

    greek geek New Member

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    Great question!

    I'm a student at DTS and in my many years there I have heard stories about its founding. When the seminary first started the professors were not paid. They came just to teach others and depended on God for their provision. Later, when the school decided to start paying their profs (but not very much) they started charging tuition. Well students went to complain to the administration. Their argument was that it was wrong for them to charge tuition, the students didn't have the money to pay...and besides, the profs should continue to rely on God to provide. To which they received the stinging rebuke which to the effect said, 'now it's your turn to rely on God to provide.'

    I have always loved that story. To think that in the beginning the profs weren't paid, and learning there was free.

    I know it doesn't answer the OP, but it sure does fit with the discussion.
    Of course today, even if profs weren't paid seminaries would still cost, what with building upkeep, accredidation fees, insurance, and other such stuff.
     
  15. El_Guero

    El_Guero New Member

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    Is that what we pay our SBC professors? That would be about 8 - 12k below average, but reasonable considering our seminaries are usually in lower cost of living areas (excluding GGBTS).

     
  16. Joseph M. Smith

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    Wow, preachinjesus, are you by any chance a trustee of a seminary, and, if so, can I come and teach there?!

    As it happens, I am a trustee of a new seminary, John Leland Center for Theological Studies, and we are paying in the 50K range for the few full-time people we have. However, we permit them ... even encourage them ... to accept church positions to help supplement their salaries. Washington, DC, is a high-cost place to live.
     
  17. PatsFan

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    Sounds great! Just wondering PJ. Is teaching in a seminary like that part of your career plans?
     
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