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How SHOULD WE View OT LAW With NT Grace?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. convicted1

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    To quote Arthur Fonzarellie(sp?),"Correctamundo"!!
     
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    Noah found Grace in the sight of God YEARS before the Law was set up. Any covenant that was between man and God has the Grace of God included....God IS full of Grace.

    Well, under the Law, it was they(OT Jews) who had to observe/keep it in order to be in good standing with God. If anyone broke it, they were to be stoned. There was no second chance, they died. Now, under Grace, we have Jesus as our Advocate, and He pleads our case before the Father whenever we stumble.

    God crushed satan when Jesus came out of the tomb, victorious over death, hell, and the grave.
    Abraham believed God and it was imputed/accounted unto him as righteousness.

    God told Samuel there was a son of Jesse, a man after "My Own heart." So, inessence, some of the covenants God set up with mankind was based upon His foreknowledge. He knew who would believe and who wouldn't from the foundation of the world.

    The Ten Commandments were our sins on a "billboard". The Law was/is our schoolmaster that brought us unto and not into Christ. Moses, was a type of the Law, in that he could bring them to the Promised Land, but not into it. God was the One who did that, bring them into the Promised Land.


    Now, here is where it is spoken of the coming of the New Covenant that God would make with His people:

    Jeremiah 31

    31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

    33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

    Under the Law, God remembered their transgressions, therefore the need of the yearly sin sacrifice was necessary. Not so under the Grace Covenant.

    Here is where it is found in the NT:

    Hebrews 8

    7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

    8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

    9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

    10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

    11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

    12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

    Hebrews 10

    9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

    10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

    11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

    12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

    13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

    14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

    15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

    16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

    17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.



    Now, what do you think the saying "after those days" was referring to? I believe it was talking about the time when Jesus was here on earth to fulfill the Law. After He died, arose, and seated by the right hand of the Father, you see where the Grace Covenant blots out our sins, where the Law never could.
     
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    I would say that God method of salvation was/is Grace both Covenants, just that Isreal under OT had the law given to her due to above listed reasons, while those of us in New Covenant have Grace in sense 'full realised" now here, NOT looking towards as in the OT!
     
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