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Did you see the thread I did on Sacred Harp music...actually it has become vogue in the North & South & in Europe.

Attached is explanation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaLnG7vfVOc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXymWIeQb1c

 

The Duck Dynasty family all profess Christ saved them, but they also add inthe requiremnent to me water baptised..

Is it as simple as if they held to one MUST be water baptism in order to get saved, that is another Gospel?

but that the truth is also that IF they have been saved by Grace of God, that they still might be teaching wrong doctrine, but still saved?

In that case, need to join a good baptist church!

 

that would be the question that really determines if it is saved by grace alone, threu faith alone though!

A saved person SHOULD be Baptized, but it is NOT required to be saved!

 

Regarding MUSIC.....here is a Primitive Baptist Church agenda:

Singing
Primitive Baptists believe the most beautiful and only scriptural instrument for use in New Testament worship is the human voice. All singing is conducted a cappella (without instruments). Most Primitive Baptists use modern hymnals with music, suitable for a cappella singing, written in four part harmony. Individuals attend Primitive Baptist singing schools at their discretion or may take music lessons in order to produce the beautiful singing many of our churches are known for.
Most churches assemble at 10:30 on Sunday morning and sing for approximately 30 minutes with songs being selected by both the song leader and members of the congregation

 

Oh, I know what his answer will be. Not water baptized, not saved.

That's not my question. The question is, is he saved by his repentance and faith, regardless of whether he believes baptism completes it?

 

No, because he is not trusting Christ as his salvation.

 

Do they start every song doing the solo fa lo so thing ?

 

As a calvinist, would have to answer if he was the elect, yes the Lord saved him despite his bad theology, but would also say that the lord would require him to find another church, hopefully a good baptist one!

Di you know if C of C sees baptism as sealing salvation, as that obedience shows was a genuine faith in Jesus, or do they see it as the catholics do,as washing away their orogianl sin, and regenerating them again?

 

For the CoC I know the issue is much more simplistic than doctrines about original sin, etc. They would answer like this:


Mark 16:16 (to be saved -- necessary)
Acts 2:38 (for the remission of sins -- necessary)
Acts 22:16 (to wash away their sins -- necessary)
1 Cor 12:13 (Baptized into One Body named Church of Christ of course - necessary)
Gal 3:27 (Baptized into Christ - necessary)



Because they have in effect codified the New Testement into a "new Law" that must be followed to the letter without much regard for its Old Testement context, if it says to be baptized then of course it is necessary for salvation by default

 

Dontworry...we would dround you out:laugh:

 

Thats the warm up.

 

Country songs about Jesus are at the bottom of the barrel, in particular songs like "Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goal Posts of Life" and "Turn the Radio On." In addition, slap happy hillbilly songs like "I'll Fly Away," I'll Meet You in the Morning," and "Down by the River" have about as much Scriptural value as a lottery ticket.

Gospel songs are about as bad. I do not recall the name, but one of the stanzas say we will be looking back at earth as we pass Neptune, Saturn and Mars. What a crock.

It is obvious the Psalms were accompanied by music. The Baptist hymnal is chalked full of solid, spiritual songs. Modern contemporary music can be a deeply moving experience.

In worshiping God in Spirit and Truth, the beat does not matter, the style does not matter, and certainly what you like or dislike does not matter. The content and the heart of the worshipper does.

 

Not to be critical, BUT, I will have to say this; it does have a good sound and I would have to learn the words to the songs they are singing to be too critical or not critical at all. From watching the tapes there seems to be somewhat of a glorifying in the fact that they can sing four part harmony. Or maybe the glorying is in the fact they have beautiful voices, but people have to be careful to glory in the Lord and him alone. If they sing songs that has gospel in them, and I am not talking about songs going to heaven but about Christ and his accomplishments on the cross, then all the better. 1 Cor 1:31 He that Glorieth, let him that Glory in the Lord.

 

Then fellas, your going to love this....less than 2 minutes & make note of these singers ages, the young are very attracted to this.:love2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STtz7ZhEC6U

 

So they would be much as the Oneness folks then?
As oneness hold that one mUST be baptized in the name of jesus only, for remission of sins?

So both do see faith alone/grace alone as not being sufficient?

 

Line out singing is also done...more so in WV & KY... do you know what that is?

 

I've heard the term but don't know much about it.