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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by John of Japan, Sep 6, 2017.

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  1. OnlyaSinner

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    That's the definition of a specialist. Of course, the generalist is one who knows less and less about more and more, eventually knowing nothing about everything. (And the best definition of "expert" I've heard is, "A has-ben combined with a drip under pressure." (Origin unknown)
     
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  3. HankD

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    Interesting site - $120.00 for his eth cepher scripture book.

    No church fathers quoted - untrustworthy.

    :Cool

    HankD
     
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  4. John of Japan

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    To be a wannabe Bibliology scholar, you must learn to sound authoritative. Never show any doubt whatsoever in your pontificating. Of course, that's not how a real scholar sounds....
     
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    Why study when the actual expert will tell you what it all means.
     
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    You guys are borrowing quite liberally from Mark (S.C.) Twain.
     
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    Sometimes I question who the so called experts are that you get your theology from!
     
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  8. Yeshua1

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    Hopefully, that would be the Holy Spirit?
     
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    Yes. Fluency in Hebrew & Greek does not always lead to sound doctrine. The Bible colleges don't replace careful, prayerful study of the Scriptures in English - the language we know best.

    We are commanded to study - & need to study before we can teach, otherwise it is all second hand - " Alas, master! for it was borrowed."

    As you imply, we need the power of the Holy Spirit, as we study & as we preach.
     
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    The thing though is that Hebrew and Greek were the original languages the Lord choose to record the scriptures down to us in!
     
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    'The thing though' is that the majority of the OT quotes found in the NT are from the Greek (LXX).
     
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    Yet the LXX was not inspired by God, but the hebrew was!
     
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    Yet the Inspirer Himself quoted the LXX.
     
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    He could, as well as the Apostles, but not us today!
     
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    If the LXX (in English) was all you had, would you use it?

    Better yet, would the Spirit use it to feed you?
     
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    Yes, but God can use the Living Bible, message to do that also!
     
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    I was reading the Living Bible when His sovereign grace was revealed to me!
     
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    Another ruse used by the would be Bibliology scholar is--get this--to downplay a theological education. Note what Pidgeon says:

    "This project has been a labor of love that originated from a genuine calling by YAHUAH and the guidance of the RUACH HAQODESH; neither of which required a specialized degree from a theological seminary or a Hebrew university. In truth, YAHUAH has long been using similarly uncredentialled men and women to accomplish his kingdom purposes, so it should come as no surprise to anyone that he has once again done so in choosing us to publish the את CEPHER." (Who were the translators of the CEPHER?) (For "uncredentialled" read "ignorant and uneducated.")

    Apparently he thinks that a genuine theological or linguistic education would actually hinder the translation of the Word of God. (But actually, he has not done a translation.) I say in response, "Wise men lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction" (Prov. 10:14).

    The thing is, actually getting theological and linguistic training is hard work, taking 1000s of hours, much study, and ample cash. The lazy, would be scholar doesn't want to put in the effort, but wants to be thought of as an expert, so he sneers at a theological education. My college pres thinks I should start on my doctorate, and my flesh shrinks from that, because I know what it costs in hard work. The would be scholar doesn't have a clue.

    It would take far too long to uncover all of the linguistic and theological errors on the "Eth Cepher" website. But they are there--boy are they ever! A good education would have helped prevent those errors.
     
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  19. John of Japan

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    You must be kidding!! What in the world do you think people study at Bible College? Pig Latin? Basket weaving??? :Laugh :Laugh

    Hold on to your hat--they study the Bible--in English, mostly! Every freshman at our college takes "Methods of Bible Study," and that's the best course I ever took myself at Bible college over 40 years ago.
     
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    The best, and certainly the most useful, course I ever took was Bible Exposition and Hermeneutics taught by Dr. Howard Hendricks at Dallas Theological Seminary. (Actually that was several courses, but you get what I mean.) :)
     
    #40 TCassidy, Sep 9, 2017
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