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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Scarlett O., Feb 18, 2021.

  1. George Antonios

    George Antonios Well-Known Member

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    I'll answer you with your words:

     
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    The word of the Lord came to the prophets in OT, came to David, and to the Apostles, not to ANY translators!
     
  3. George Antonios

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    You're working hard to change to subject by nuancing it.
    Of course the word of God doesn't "come" to modern translators as it came to the prophets.
    That's not the issue here.
    God can give things by inspiration without the word of God having to come as it did with the prophets.
    The 66 books of the Bible are all inspired but the methodology of God was not always by sending his word in a vision to all.
     
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    The Holy Spirit intervened to make sure that the writers put down exactly what he intended them to say, in their own words, but he does not do same with translators!
     
  5. George Antonios

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    There is NO derived inspiration caught off/from translation off the Hebrew and Greek texts!
     
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    The Kjv is not inspired.....
     
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    Copies and translations are demonstrably shown to be the sources of errors (it is one way to trace the family of a transcript by the faithful reproduction of copyist errors). Are you actually asking for a verse to prove that God does not inspire errors?

    That seems self-evident.
     
  10. George Antonios

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    We're not talking about the KJV and I already told you that.
    But as I've often stated on this board, you folks focus on the KJV to hide the fact and you don't believe any Bible whatsoever.
    Par for the course.
     
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    All I'm saying is what the scriptures clearly show: that copies and translations can indeed be given by inspiration of God. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    The humanistic position, which has infiltrated the churches from the seminaries, and whereby the serpent has infected the minds of Christians, rejects that truth and restricts inspiration to only the original autograph - a baseless and useless claim since we don't have the originals, by the sovereign, predestinated, foreordained, mystical, pre-eternal, etc. decree of God.

    A non-inspired Bible is not the word of God...by definition. What sets apart the Bible from any other book is precisely inspiration. If your version (I don't care of it's KJV or not) is not inspired, then it's not the Bible, and so please don't quote it. Might as well quote Plato.
     
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    Do you believe that copies/translations can be given the same "God-breathed" inspiration as were the original autographs?
     
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    Perhaps some people haven’t read or don’t believe Rule No. 8: “Stop turning every single thread into a KJV vs. all other versions discussion.”
    Or we might ask, “Do you believe that accurate copies of and/or accurate translations of the actual exact words that proceeded directly out of the mouth of God by inspiration are still just as much the word of God as when given they were given by inspiration?”
     
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    Print errors or even copy errors do not prevent inspiration. They are just not exact copies.

    Some try to claim intent of meaning cannot be inspired nor can God preserve His word to mean the same in all languages.

    This is not that translators have to be inspired themselves.

    They only have to be faithful. And not insert their own ideology into the text.
     
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    God was only directly involved in the creation of the Originals....
     
  16. George Antonios

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    Book, chapter, and verse?
     
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    Not believing that the Kjv is perfect and inspired is NOT saying that Bibles are not trustworthy!
     
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    You totally mingle Inspiration and preservation!
     
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    He does, but there is no biblical evidence that actually has happened after John passed away!
     
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    They are authoritative and infallible, as translation, but NOT inspired and Inerrant!
     
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