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I wonder how prevalent this ethos is, across local police forces, as I've not encountered it personally - not that my experience proves anything or is typical. I've been stopped for speeding twice, once 2 years ago for low 50s in a short 40 zone, and in 1976 for 47 after entering a 35. Each time I got a warning; having a clean license helped. The 1976 officer (State trooper) said he chose that spot because a young child had been killed by a speeder near that location a year earlier. Another State trooper I knew would set his radar at 20-over (70 in a 50) because he could not keep up with business if set at a lower speed. The small number of LEO stops I pass while driving in-state would not move the budget needle much at all.

A prevalent thought, especially among big-city cops is that there are 2 kinds of people in their bailiwick - Fuzz and Scuzz. They tend to look at everyone else as a potential suspect.

A 1960s book, The New Centurians, (fiction about Detroit cops, written by a veteran LEO) strongly emphasized this us-them attitude, another thing I've seldom encountered. The folk who go into LE for the power/authority are the ones who play that game, maybe the adrenalin junkies as well.

 

While no longer a cop, I have two scanners that play 24/7 (except during electrical storms) tuned to local police, fire, EMS, & other emergency services. The cops on the radio refer to everyone not in some ES as a "subject", and most "undesirables", especially those whom they've arrested before, as "goat ropers"(A euphemism for "General Relief").

But then I know many of the cops' frustrations that lead to the wrong actions by some: putting in much work & many hoiurs getting the evidence to put a crook behind bars only to have a court throw out the charges on a "technicality". And most cops have an uneasy relationship with prosecutors, the cops knowing they're closest to the criminals' lifestyles, while the prosecutors' knowledge of written law makes many think they're superior to the police. Then, sometimes, corrupt prosecutors & corrupt cops are in cahoots.

Also, cops are legally bound to take verbal abuse, such as being called "pigs", etc.

But the "revolving door justice system" is the greatest frustration of all to both cops & prosecutors. This is a result of man's going on his own without JESUS.

 

So you are speaking of something you have no experience in:

How did you come by this information? Perhaps you know someone who suffered at the hands of a Police Officer that got up on the wrong side of the Bed?

And of course you gloss right over the point.

Sounds like to me that you had a specific intent to arrest drunk drivers, which is a good thing. Have you ever stopped to think that you saved lives by arresting those people? I'm sure you have.

The point is this: Police Officers do much good, and the bottom line is this would be an entirely different country if we did not have them.

Which makes your view that much worse.

Not quite a ringing endorsement there, T.

Again, you miss the point, which I am sure will be followed up with the typical "Know I didn't!"

Okay, so you know a number of Officers...that still doesn't account for the many you do not know. You are still offering up opinion based on your experience/s.

First...

Seems you have badmouthed both Police Officers as well as Lawyers...

Secondly, I am willing to cede you know more about the department and Officers you worked around, but, that does not mean you have a better understanding of the Police Force as a whole, because your experience means very little when we consider the vast number of Officers you know nothing about.

Third, if it is true that you never watch, read, or listen to the Media, then your error is compounded, because not only does it show you are drawing conclusions and voicing opinion based on your own experience, we also consider this is...

...from the past.

You know it almost looks like you might have a sense of humor...

...naw, what am I thinking...




God bless.

 

Dealt with where?

And by the way...that is the point: Justice on a frontier is a lot different than in an organized urban area.

However, I would point out that Justice is Justice, and as for me, I feel much more comfortable having a Justice System such as we have, rather than having one, as the point you overlooked makes...where men, or women, determine for themselves what Justice is going to be.

While there are corrupt cops, our system does not allow for them to work outside of the Law, and when they are caught and dealt with by our Justice System, everyone cheers.

Because some of us believe in Justice as part of the American Way.

I'm actually very fond of cows. Just something peaceful about cows.

I know, I'm trying to help you stop doing it...

I suspect you have dual residency...

You're in the second residence on this one...fantasy land.

What media source did you get that stat from?

Hmm, sounds like you guys don't trust each other very much, lol.

According to this thread I cannot. After all, you were a Police Officer, right?

And by what would you measure what is criminal? What would you say to a drunk driver? Who are you to determine that he/she shouldn't be driving while intoxicated?

Thankfully its not Billy Joe Bob who might have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed...

What experience I have is through dealing with Police Officers directly. Before I was saved, I was actually beaten in Jail, and taken out to a cliff and thrown off. Those were corrupt officers.

As far as Hollywood, they glamorize corruption in Police Officers. "Dirty Harry" is a good example of a cop with no respect for Law and Justice.

And by the way, what do you know about Hollywood. Didn't you say you didn't read, watch, or listen to any media source?

MM-hmm. Let's take a few of those "real men" who feel the need to carry a gun and teach them the love of Christ. Or, throw into a ghetto in New York.

Better bring extra ammo.



But, seriously, I want you to consider whether or not the Police Force in your area contributes to a quiet society. As I said, it may be that you are alive today because a Police Officer, doing his duty, pulled a drunk driver out of his car.


God bless.


God bless.

 

No sir, they are not.

There are still a lot of good Police Officers out there doing there duty and putting their lives on the line just by donning the shield. They put themselves in harms way for the good of the general public. Just because there is a small percentage of the population that has bought into a Police State hysteria doesn't mean there isn't a percentage that is quite happy we have the Police.

That's like saying "It is in the best interest of the Church to purge false teachers from the faith."

It's kind of a no-brainer.

Who exactly is this "public" you speak of? The public from media polls?

And people accuse me of a Hollywood view, lol.

They do.


God bless.

 

So let me see if I understand: you are saying that it was regretful that "Justice" was carried out without the alleged criminal benefiting from the Justice System?


God bless.

 

Maybe you just got off lucky, Reynolds. I am 6'2", was 240 LB at the time, former boxer & semipro football player, but I was once tossed 10 ft. thru the air by a 150-lb. doper who wasn't even trying to hurt me.(No, I didn't shoot him. He suddenly just collapsed. He was high on LSD.) If he'd had a weapon, he woulda likely killed me, had he gone for my head or throat.

I don't blame any cop who sees a genuine threat to his/her life/well-being, or that of a fellow officer or innocent-appearing member of the public at-large, for shooting the perp.

 

And you a voice of experience

 

I am all for law enforcement of true crimes.

The typical ticket writing, doesn't fit that scenario.

The over reach of the present asset seizure doesn't fit that scenario.

The bully attitude without true accountability to the public doesn't fit that scenario.

I predict that the Supreme Court will rule asset seizures unconstitutional, one justice has already indicated that it is and merely needs a good test case brought before the court.

The public use of cameras to document police as well as criminal activity is a great tool so long as the media present the whole video and not edit for biases.

Time to take patrol cars away, and have the police actually walk the streets in the big cities, standing forcefully in crime ridden neighborhoods, and boldly confront those who would do harm to good individuals and families. Be proactive rather than reactive. Every educator who has had to teach in a large class setting with less than desirable must use that principle.

 

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So how do you make that happen?

 

....yea, they're blk & br, they'd look good too...