I hope Sara Evans reconsiders

AP - I'm praying for you. I think you need some kind of counseling.

 

I'm sorry, AP. I didn't mean that to sound harsh or self-righteous. I'm sure you understand how people can misconstrue your words or intentions. I mean, people do it to you all the time, right?

I apologize for suggesting you get help. But I'll still pray for you, whether you want it or not.

 

Thanks for the info, ASLANSPAL. I have several of Sara Evans' CDs and I have liked her music. I was wondering what was going on and now I know. It appears that she definitely has Biblical grounds for divorce.

 

I am surprised the moderators allowed the OP to keep the link to a pornographic site. I am also surprised the OP would contain such a link.

 

AP I have a question

You seem to draw a link between this behaviour and and the GOP. Do you think that if we voted in all (name party of choice) that there would not be anymore of this type of thing.

What I am saying is I think there are Mark Foleys, Bill Clintons, Craig Schelskis and Ted Kennadies across the political spectrum. It is not just limited to GOP or DNC they are Independints, Libratarians, Constitutional party, Green, etc.

If you put enough people from one party in office you will find a rotten one or two.


OR are you saying the GOP makes people this way.

 

I did not see any link to porn.

 

Saw no porn, but lots of inappropriate language in the links section of the Wonkette blog link. Beware if easily offended.

 

The thing is, all these other groups are not running as the "party of the religious right". These other groups don't have folks questioning someone's salvation because of a vote for someone from "the other side". And these other groups aren't constantly saying one thing and then either doing nothing or doing the very opposite of what they said.

Foley was part of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children for goodness sake! Talk about doing the opposite of your word.

I agree, sin knows no boundries, but if the Republican party wants to play the part of being a proponent of faith and family, they need to clean up thier own act and in a hurry! Why should I give my vote to someone who claims to support my ideals but truely only care that he gets my vote so he/she can do just as they please when they get the job?

The problem with the Republican party is that they have made hypocrites of themselves by allowing matters like Foley and the OP to go on without reproach.

If you are going to put yourself up as the model by which the world should live, shouldn't you live your own ideals?

 

And democrats haven't?

 

But the Democrats haven't put themselves up as the purveyors of faith and family. What makes a hypocrit is someone who pretends to believe one way and yet realty shows they believe the opposite.

 

So, it's okay for Democrats to be anti faith and family, because they never claim to be anything but anti faith and family? Is that what you are trying to say?

 

Ya' know, I wonder what Jeremiah or Isaiah would say? Peter or Paul? Jesus?

'Repent' would be a good word to start with.

IMHO. I just pray that God begins judging our leaders with the painful deaths that they deserve - so that people in America will turn back before God judges the rest of us . . . IMHO.

:jesus: is the only Way . . .

 

I'm not sure if that was intended to be funny or not. Either way, I disagree.

There are good and honest people in both major parties. I don't think it is fair to hold entire parties responsible for the behavior of one member. Just like I don't think it is right to label a church or denomination as bad because one of it's members is bad.

The reason for my question to the person above my last post, was the implication that Republicans are bad because they claim to be for faith and family, and a member of the Republican party engaged in behavior that does not fit the claim. That is what I believe they meant by excusing Democrats bad behavior as not hypocritical, because they never claimed to be for faith and family.

 

Never said I excused anyone for their bad behavior.

But....(let me see if I can explain this simply):

In the last election those Christians who dared vote for someone on the Democratic party were told how liberal that must make us and even on occasion had our salvation questioned. The Democratic party was/is BAD and the Republican were GOOD. Why? Because the Democrats made no secret of their support of abortion and gay rights and the Republicans pretended to go along with the "religious right" and told us what we wanted to hear while planning all along to do nothing and then pretend they couldn't.

Then these good Republican yell and holler when a democrat does something wrong using the incidence as proof of what they were telling us all along. Democrats are BAD. And the "religious right" goes right along with them.

But when a Republican does something wrong, we are not to paint the entire party by what one individual does. The whole party is GOOD and there's no denying it!

I'm sorry if you folks can't see through these tactics. Neither party is all good or all bad. (I think most of us agree on that) But it irritates me especially for Republican supporters to put themselves on a pedestal of goodness when nothing could be further from the truth.

This is evidenced not only by the OP but also by Foley, Cheny (who couldn't seem to teach his own child that homosexuality is wrong and I won't even mention Haliburton), and the newest bit....Rep Weldon of Pa who is being investigated for improperly securing contracts for his daughter.

IF I'm not mistaken a party is made up of individual members. If the Republicans want to put themselves up as the party for "faith and values", then they need to be sure the membership agrees.

 

You are just making the same error still.

Foley is a hypocrite. That does not make the Republican party hypocrites.
Kennedy is a fat, alcoholic who drove his mistress into a river and left her to drown. That does not make all Democrats fat alcoholics that drive their mistresses into rivers and leave them to drown.

Democrats, in general, do not support the war in Iraq. A few Democrats do support the war in Iraq, does that make them hypocrites? No, it makes them individuals who are responsible for their own thoughts and actions. They may agree with the rest of the party 90% of the time, but, the 10% of the time they do not agree does not make they hypocrites.

 

Well, isn't that Special.