I Peter 1:5

Sure! God is full of faith. He measures out His faithfulness to all, and all who will believe can receive grace unto salvation. ("whosever will" means all who will and all can).


Faith begins with Him, it does not begin with man, else God is an invention of man's faith.

If all of creation begins with God's speaking it all into existence,and it does, then everything thing God created which was good comes directly from Him and through His faithfulness/ God is full of faith.

Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Even creation declares the glory of God and faith is created in the mind of belief towards God through His glory.

The Cross is the Glory of God in that what looked like the mortal end of Christ was actually the salvation of man. His Resurrection is our victory as He is victorious over our arch enemies: satan, death, hell, and the grave!:godisgood:

Me hot and bothered?:laugh:

Exposing a lie doesn't require heated emotion.

 

Yeah ya did. What you have said makes it look like it is totally up to us and from our being that we believe, but belief comes from both creation and the word of God, it originates from God and is not a mindwork of man.

Better go back and read a few previous verses . What you are twisting the Scriptures into negates the need for the Blood of Christ for everyone before Calvary into that all one had to do was believe God and they were instantly righteous.

Abraham still had to be redeemed before he was ever saved.
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6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. (Gen. 15:6 - NKJV)

3For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (Rom. 4:3-5 - NKJV)

To have righteousness accounted to him, yes. I knew that all along. But he still waqsn't redeemed/regenrated until he received the Finished work on Calvary.

 

I'm sorry, I don't arbitrate the Word of God, I just believe it because God said it.

Now you're nit-picking. I relate the word of God and didn't quote it.

Faith is the evidence of things not seen/ yet, and the substance of things hoped for/ will come. Faith is then tangible, otherwise it is blind faith.

Comply to what? I never mentioned versions, but I did point out the differences between what you offered and what the Bible says.

Your welcome to personally think anything you wish, but to understand the Bible you must relate to an earlier understanding of our language than rather apply modernistic thinking and averted definitions to Greek and Hebrew. But you said this isn't a versions issue anyway.

Yeah He did:

Main Entry: 1au·thor
Pronunciation: 'o-th&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English auctour, from Anglo-French auctor, autor, from Latin
1 a : one that originates or creates : [SIZE=-1]SOURCE[/SIZE] <software authors> <film authors> <the author of this crime> b capitalized : [SIZE=-1]GOD [/SIZE]1

Main Entry: 1fin·ish
Pronunciation: 'fi-nish
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English finisshen, from Anglo-French finiss-, stem of finir, from Latin finire, from finis
transitive verb
1 : to bring to completion or issue

Neither is it me. I have never said that the gift of faith is imparted specially, nor specifically to any one group, for that matter.

All I have ever said is that faith comes from Him who is faithfull. It is because He is faithful that I am kept by His power through the faith I was given by measure when I was created. It is a God-given ability that every man, note: every man! is born with. It is then up to that man to have faith in God, thus believe. But I still maintain, and the Scripture does as well, that faith comes from God, else we are a creature who has created a "god" by our "faith".

 

Ok, ok, I'll play along:laugh:

God is full of faith, that is what faithfull means:full of faith/ FAITH-FULL.

God has no object to direct His faith towards, He is faith, or at least full of faith from the start.

Does God need grace? No, He is full of grace/ graceful.

Does God need mercy? No, He is full of mercy/ merciful.:godisgood:

 

Abraham still had to receive forgiveness of sins through the Blood Atonement, it is not synco-sematic.

Nope! We're saved by grace through faith/ faith is the vehicle which allows grace to come our way. Without faith it is impossible to please God.

Regeneration is what happens when a soul rests solely upon the work of Calvary to deliver him from being dead in tresspasses and sins and then being quickened by the Spirit. Abraham, and all the rest, looked towards Calvary for an expected redemption, but until Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." was redemption possible. Then His Blood still had to be "sprinkled" upon the Mercy Seat for redemption/ regenration to be complete. thus the importance of Paradise/ Abraham's Bosom, as the holding place until Calvary.

Me too!:godisgood:

 

Sorry, but i only responded to what you said in hopes you'd see some light.:laugh:

So you'd separate preaching the word of God from the Word of God????

Yeah, I know what the "powers that be on BB" reject, but that would be to their own destruction.

The only superiorority is in the text in relating the Originals in their meaning. Uh, so we all might understand the Bible.

Antiquating the language as to make it archaic is rather foolish when you consider from where all of our English language is derived.

All my word studies confirm what the Bible says in English. What about yours? Not.

Your symposium would hinder anyone from knowing what the Bible says in any language except they were present in the time the word of God was given. A very dangerous approach to hermanuetics.

I don't "put down" any version that portrays what the Bible says, but when it is either lacking or definitely wrong, that version accomplishes that all by itsself.

 

:laugh: :laugh:

What's wrong, you don't like the Merriam-Webster Dictionary?

Who is faithful.

Which none you listed are faithful and therefore allow those who place their faith in them to perish with them.

You mean you don't don't know?

The Hebrew word is bara concerning creation from absolutely nothing.

You're implying something totally against what the Bible teaches and thereby allows, by your attempt, to validate other's faiths as being acceptable, in that as long as you're earnest in your faith it would be, to God.

God places no faith in any objest, but He KNOWS all who will receive Christ will partake of His faithfulness. God is the very essence of faith. Anything else is a false hope, wouldn't you agree?

See? We agree!:godisgood:

 

Hey, at least it got the slugmaster's attention.:laugh:

 

Ok, but first let me ask you a direct question: is Jesus God?

Yes. To whom did the Lord place His faith upon?

Didn't Jesus say, "Into Thy hands I commend my spirit"? Yes. If this isn't a perfect example, from Scripture, of God the Son placing His faith in God the Father then you don't really believe the Bible.:sleeping_2:

 

Not at all, Jesus completely depended upon His Father to do exactly how He has done.

You seem to want to demand that there was no human side of Jesus, but that doesn't matter, because then you'll have a very hard time convincing God of that.

Are you saying God died?

In His humanity, yes, Jesus died. He also had faith in His Father to deliver His soul from hell, in His humanity. So to deny that God has faith in this particular area is heresy.

Maybe the problem here is that you cannot differentiate the difference between man's faith in God and the faith Jesus had with His Father?

Still, we couldn't have faith if God hadn't been faithful.

It's His being faithful that assures my faith in Him.

If faith isn't a gift, then it is a work of the flesh, that is HERESY!

Tell me from ANY source, where faith originates?

 

Glad you've got the Lord all figured out, I don't, but I know He is faithful.

Just as Jesus in His humanity had faith in the Father, I too, can be like Him and have faith in the Father.

You do understand that Jesus is our example, for we could not know God as we do without His first being manifest.

In th humanity side of the Lord he definitely had faith in God according to John 17, deny it and you deny the Lord's Prayer.

Jesus also has faith that the Holy Ghost will lift up the Son and point others to Christ.

My God changeth not. WE're speaking of the Same God, it's just you don't see something so obvious, at least I can see the forest because of the trees.:godisgood: :jesus: :godisgood:

 

BTW, my faith will end in sight. Wanna know why? Because I have the promise of God it will!:jesus: :jesus: :jesus: Sweetest name I know! Fills my every longing, Keeps me singing as I go!:sleeping_2: