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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by rockytopva, Nov 14, 2022.

  1. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

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    This doesn't change what I stated.

    Feelings are fickle and the heart is desperately wicked, who can know it.
     
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    What did I say in the quote?
    The sermon on the Mount is fascinating. Jesus provides the beatitudes that come to the redeemed and then he spend the rest of the sermon telling his listeners that they cannot be redeemed by their own works.
    Do you imagine your works save you?
     
  3. rockytopva

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    Are you calling the fruit of the Spirit fickle?

    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. - Galatians 5:22-23
     
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    What did I say?
    "Feelings are fickle and the heart is desperately wicked, who can know it."

    You made a claim of feelings.

    The fruit of the Spirit is just one fruit, not many fruits. When the Spirit is unhindered He produces all these things in us (love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance). These are all effects of God the Holy Spirit. These are not feelings.
     
  5. rockytopva

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    And without the fruit of the Spirit we have…
    But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. - Matthew 3:7-9

    Noting Sad-U-See. The religion did not make the 16” trip from the head to the heart. Noting the following quote… “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” ― Aristotle
     
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    You can post passages all you want. The pharisees tried the same tactic. Your holier than though self righteous judging of a gir and excusing your own sin paints a picture of your true spirit.
     
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    Let’s look at the op

    Did the op show love?? No! He showed a lack of love for the lady
    Did the op show longsuffering? No! He quickly judged and condemned a lady
    Did the op show gentleness? No, he showed and continues to show judgement and harsh attacking
    Did the op show meekness? No, he showed self righteous, pumping his chest. I am better than she is. And judged her very salvation
    Did the op show Temperance? No, quite the opposite

    Did the op show the fruit of the spirit in this context or this op? No. Quite the opposite. He acted more like a pharisee or religious self righteous person that a person who is led by the spirit of God

    Again, in this op and this context.
     
  8. rockytopva

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    Well... Making some Thanksgiving fixen's for the family. I did make the hour drive to the Indian Valley Pentecostal Holiness church where I recorded the service. A fine bunch of people. If I could go back in time I would have shown more interest in godliness and less interest in the figure. So... In that I claim responsibility. As far as the woman in the OP... We parted paths and I do not know what became of her. But... As far as I am concerned... A so called Christian woman still in the party scene is no lady and better off left alone.
     
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    Without the Fruit of the Spirit, we have a Pharisee who judges God's children and tries to justify it on the BB.
     
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    OK POINTS HAVE BEEN MADE --- LETS MOVE ON
     
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    What things was she doing that you considered evil ?
     
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    I would not speak against minor things...

    1. Dress
    2. Smoking
    3. Drinking
    4. Secular music
    5. Materialism

    Even though... These things are temporary. But fornication and sex outside of marriage I find very unwise and along with the Apostle Paul I must cry...

    18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
    19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
    20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. - 1 Corinthians 6
     
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    Most branches of pentecostalism are apostate, full of false doctrines. One in paritcular is that one isn't saved if one doesn't sometimes speak in anj unknown language. Nothing in Scripture affirms that any more than it affirms that every saint shall be a healer, etc.

    I once went to a holiness service before I was saved;; it started in the "normal" way, but the preacher kept getting louder & louder, speaking more and more rapidly until he was screeching incomprensibly. The congregation rose to their feet, one by one, & began shouting, waving their hands in the air, with many of them soon falling to the floor, cutting dust angels. I thought, "How than THIS be honoring God?" I had the impression that I'd entered a funny farm,& walked out, & never attended a holiness service again. This experience almost turned me away from church for good. (Thankfully, God had other plans for me !)

    BTW, I'm an IFB; our congregation doesn't believe any man-made doctrines of faith/worship, as they're mostly false.("Word/Faith", "Latter Rain myth", the KJVO myth, the preterism myth, etc.) And the "all true saints speak in unknown languages" myth is among them !
     
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    Are you refering to "the lack of dress" or do you mean that she was involved in terrible sin of wearing pants?

    Though neither are wise decisions
    Neithe is coffee, soda, most junk food, ect, ect.

    What secular music - I usually have "Alexa" play KNCT-FM out of Killeen, Tx as I go to sleep - and no that is not a Christian Station

    Materialism is not wrong in itself -but rather "the love of money..."

    Are you telling us that this lady is involved in fornication?
     
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    Well... To sum up this relationship with one song....

     
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    Pentecostalism... Yes the majority of it is fake... But it is wonderful when it is real! Sunday nights Indian Valley Church of God service...

     
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    And... To throw in a little scripture...

    10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
    11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
    12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
    13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
    14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
    15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
    16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
    17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
    18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
    19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
    20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
    21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
    22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
    23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
    24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
    25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
    26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
    27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
    28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
    29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
    30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.
    31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates. - Proverbs 31

    Especially... Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised... I wish that would have sunk in earlier!
     
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    This is how you responded to the question, “what did this woman do”?

    You felt the need to comment on her “wonderful looking body” and added “with it much talk of fornication”. Curious, would you have said anything if she had a fat ugly body or do you only worry about those women with “wonderful looking bodies”? Do you think there might be a little “lust of the eyes” at play here?

    You have since given her name in an open forum so everyone who knows you or had worked with you and her will know who it is you are slandering.

    As I said before… splinters and logs…. worry about yourself first. As long as you are quoting scripture about sin, you should check out James and learn to control what you say.

    I’ve said all I want to toward you

    peace to you
     
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    Well... If your relationships worked out better than mine the more power to ya! Getting hooked up with the wrong chick is a great way to lose everything you have these days!
     
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    Which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread and what you said about this woman.

    peace to you
     
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