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illegal music downloads

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by wtrsju, May 18, 2005.

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  1. wtrsju

    wtrsju New Member

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    I was wondering how many people download illegal software, music, movies, etc.. Especially Music (that is the big one for most people, at least it seems to be). It seems that I come across many in my age group (20 - 25) that seem to justify this practice and even more so I was wondering if people actually use this illegal music in church (for ministry etc). I am not coming down on people that is not the point of this thread. Just wondering the thought process behind it and how many people come across this in their own lives.
     
    #1 wtrsju, May 18, 2005
  2. bobbyd

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    the only music i have ever downloaded have been the free ones that have been offered on the internet...usually by the artist themselves. I don't have an Ipod or anything like that, so i just don't bother with it much.

    As for software and movies, i usually buy my own software and if i really want to watch something i'll either rent it or buy it.

    bdd
     
    #2 bobbyd, May 19, 2005
  3. Joseph_Botwinick

    Joseph_Botwinick <img src=/532.jpg>Banned

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    Illegal downloads is stealing and it is wrong. There is no justification for it.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #3 Joseph_Botwinick, May 19, 2005
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    As a semi-professional musician, I would like to see those who illegaly download music shot at sunset.

    i wouldn't do it. I got into a huge fight with my brother 'cuz I wouldn't copy discs for him.

    That being said, I would also protect my art, by not putting it where folks could steal it.
     
    #4 Bro. Curtis, May 19, 2005
  5. Joseph_Botwinick

    Joseph_Botwinick <img src=/532.jpg>Banned

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    Curtis,

    Where would you put it that you could sell it and protect it at the same time? The most recent example of theft of art came today when folks illegally put Star Wars on the internet.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #5 Joseph_Botwinick, May 19, 2005
  6. wtrsju

    wtrsju New Member

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    I agree it is wrong. Illegal file sharing is everywhere, especially on any college campus. I attended Liberty University and the files were shared over a college wide network. The college tried to stop it, but getting past their walls were easy for most. I find it hard for people to justify, but they do (even christians). It would be interesting or sad to see how many people use illegal files or music in their ministry.
     
    #6 wtrsju, May 19, 2005
  7. Bro. Curtis

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    Joseph, you are quite correct. I guess if people want your music, they'll get it.
     
    #7 Bro. Curtis, May 19, 2005
  8. Travelsong

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    I have about 1200 cd's. Maybe 10 of them are burnt. Sue me.
     
    #8 Travelsong, May 19, 2005
  9. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Travelsong,

    How does it feel to be a theif? If you had stolen (and yes, that is what you did is steal) my music, I would most certainly sue you. I wonder if you would be so bold as to e-mail the folks whose music you stole and actually tell them to sue you. Would you be willing to do that? Take accountability for your actions? Something tells me they would do more than sue you. You might even end up with a criminal record.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #9 Joseph_Botwinick, May 19, 2005
  10. Travelsong

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    First of all, they are albums given to me. Second, I didn't care for them enough to buy them. Third, I'd just as soon destroy them as have them take up precious room on my cd rack.

    Lastly, if you can find the email addresses of Bloc Party, Ween, Trans Am, M83, Tortoise, Ladytron, Snow Patrol, Clutch, Deathcab For Cutie, The Postal Service and Doves I'll be glad to provide you my information so that you can let them know I own one of each of their albums which isn't worth paying money for let alone the cost of the plastic disc to burn it on. Oh, yes, they can sue me too.
     
    #10 Travelsong, May 19, 2005
  11. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I just found the e-mail address for Bloc Party. Would you please PM me all of your info and I will go ahead and conctact them?

    Thanks,

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #11 Joseph_Botwinick, May 19, 2005
  12. Travelsong

    Travelsong Guest

    I don't need to PM you. My name is Jacob Griffith. My mailing address is rr6 box 6881, Saylorsburg PA, 18353. Knock yourself out tough guy.
     
    #12 Travelsong, May 19, 2005
  13. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I also found the e-mail for Ween. I will be awaiting your information.

    Thanks,

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #13 Joseph_Botwinick, May 19, 2005
  14. Travelsong

    Travelsong Guest

    Look above you tough guy. Get to work.
     
    #14 Travelsong, May 19, 2005
  15. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Thanks. I think I will.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #15 Joseph_Botwinick, May 19, 2005
  16. Travelsong

    Travelsong Guest

    Thanks. I think I will.

    Joseph Botwinick     </font>[/QUOTE]Stop talking about it and do it. I want you to see how quickly nothing continues to happen. Then I want to laugh at you.
     
    #16 Travelsong, May 19, 2005
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    I'm interested in how this pans out.
     
    #17 StefanM, May 19, 2005
  18. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Jacob,

    If you think you have not done anything wrong, why don't you contact them?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #18 Joseph_Botwinick, May 19, 2005
  19. wtrsju

    wtrsju New Member

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    Wow definetly didn't see all this coming..
     
    #19 wtrsju, May 19, 2005
  20. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Jacob,

    Would you like to contact them yourself?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #20 Joseph_Botwinick, May 19, 2005
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