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In AWE of Thy Word

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Ed Edwards, Jun 5, 2004.

  1. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Got you on the reply bit now - sorry.
     
  2. Craigbythesea

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    Thank you for doing your job as a moderator. I am sure that it is not easy.
     
  3. Ed Edwards

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    In Awe, page 721: "In the recent 1995 NASB UPDATE,
    the editors slyly change Matt 4:18 and 12:25, from
    their previous corrupt reading 'He' -- to the
    correct word 'Jesus.' Since this is
    practically the only
    improvement in teh NASB 1995 edition, it appears it was done so
    that NASB readers would reject, at first glance,
    revealing Bible versions comparison charts
    (written from 1960-1995) which normally
    begin in Matthew, the first book of the New Testament.

    Tee, hee. Riplenger finally noticed that she is
    influencing the Bible Versions. Either that or she
    is paranoid?

    Matthew 4:17 :: New American Standard Bible (NASB)
    From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent,
    for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

    This seems deceptive to me. 'Jesus' is mentioned in
    the prior verse. 'He' obviously refers to Jesus.

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  4. Ed Edwards

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    In Awe, page 723 "Some pretend that the word 'devil'
    (Gk. diabolos) refers only to Satan. ...
    New versions refuse to translate the Greek word
    'daimonion' into English,
    transliterating it instead as 'demon' and bringing with
    that Greek translaiteration (not translation)
    all of the positive meaning and connotations it
    carried in ancient pagan Greek Culture. ...
    Devil has its own built-in definition."

    Other than the 'cute' Devil, this makes
    no sense. Does it really make sense to change
    the Greek term 'diamonion' to the Greek term 'diabolos'
    and then transliterate that into English as 'devil'?

    Anyway, how many people in our Christian culture
    know the pagan Greek conotations on 'daimonion' (demon)
    compared to the pagan Greek conotations on
    'diabolos' (devil)? And what connection does the Pagan
    religions of ancient Greece have to do with the
    modern New Age movement?

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  5. Ed Edwards

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    In Awe, page 729-730

    John 5:3 :: New International Version (NIV)

    3Here a great number of disabled people used to lie--the blind, the lame, the paralyzed.[1]

    Footnotes:
    [1]5:3 Some less important manuscripts paralyzed--and they
    waited for the moving of the waters.
    4 From time to time an angel of the Lord would
    come down and stir up the waters. The first one
    into the pool after each such disturbance would be
    cured of whatever disease he had.


    Here the verse is not found in the text of the
    Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament (N)
    or the United Bible Societies' third edition (U).
    This is an omission in the N/U sources
    OR an addition in the majority text.

    By not having margin notes, the KJV1769 hides
    this variation in the sources. The NIV is superior
    in truth here showing both sources.

    Any Baptists here that have the doctrine of soul copentecy?
    Tell us Baptists the truth and we will descide which is best.

    Meanwhile, IN AWE ignores those versions that insert
    the text, and dis those versions that do not. In fact,
    I see nowhere where IN AWE ever notes anything good about
    any modern version. This includes all the modern versions
    using the received text only (some the KJV1879 only)
    for a source for translation. Sorry, that seems deceptive
    to me.

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  6. Ed Edwards

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    Netbible.com includes this footnote 9
    at the end of John 5:3:

    9tc The majority of later mss (C3 Q Y 078 Ë1,13 Ï) add the following to 5:3: “waiting for the moving of the water. 5:4 For an angel of the Lord went down and stirred up the water at certain times. Whoever first stepped in after the stirring of the water was healed from whatever disease which he suffered.” Other mss include only v. 3b (Ac D 33 lat) or v. 4 (A L it). Few textual scholars today would accept the authenticity of any portion of vv. 3b-4, for they are not found in the earliest and best witnesses (Ì66,75 Í B C* T pc co), they include un-Johannine vocabulary and syntax, several of the mss that include the verses mark them as spurious (with an asterisk or obelisk), and because there is a great amount of textual diversity among the witnesses that do include the verses. The present translation follows NA27 in omitting the verse number, a procedure also followed by a number of other modern translations.

    Sorry, checking the superscripts on the
    document titles does NOT appear here???
     
  7. Ed Edwards

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    In Awe, page 9, is a table comparing
    parts of Colossians 2:18 appartently
    trying to show that the new versions
    are totally opposite the KJV.

    1. What is with the partial quotes?

    KJV - things which he hath NOT seen
    NIV, TNIV - what he has [noda] seen
    NASB - visions he has [noda] seen


    Colossians 2:18 (Netbible.com):
    Let no one who delights in humility and the worship
    of angels pass judgment on you. That person goes on at
    great lengths about what he has supposedly seen,
    but he is puffed up with empty notions by his fleshly mind.

    Interesting, the presence or absence of 'not' makes
    no difference. The rest of the verse gives the meaning
    with or without the 'not'.

    I.E. Again the author IN AWE practices a deception.

    Colossians 2:18 (NIV):
    Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship
    of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into
    great detail about what he has seen,
    and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions.

    Colossians 2: 18 (Amplified Bible)
    Let no one defraud you by acting as an umpire and
    declaring you unworthy and disqualifying you for the prize,
    insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels,
    taking his stand on visions [he claims] he has seen,
    vainly puffed up by his sensuous notions and inflated by his unspiritual thoughts and fleshly conceit,

    Colossians 2:18 (KJV1769)
    Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility
    and worshipping of angels, intruding into
    those things which he hath not seen
    ,
    vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    See, they all warn of the same type person
    taking away your prize with their
    false humility and untrue angel stories.
    This should apply to women like Gail Riplinger
    as well as male men.

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  8. Ed Edwards

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    Anybody interested in a discussion of
    real text from a real book?
    Or would folk rather argue opinions
    and hunches and skip looking
    at the facts?

    :confused:
     
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    I don't think too many people have had the chance to read GAR's latest propaganda yet. I know I haven't had a chance to do anything but leaf through it, so I can't really make any in-depth comment yet...but judging from her past work............!!?
     
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    Do we have to read it? Can't we just wait for Chick to give us his version? I'm sure it won't lose any of its academic quality.
     
  11. Ed Edwards

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    Oh, I don't know. It seems
    Dr. Pastor Gail Riplinger has learned how
    to edit red letters right into her book.
    What depth it gives to her presentations.

    Too bad she is a black & whitest.
    Nowhere could you find something that might
    be useful like:

    Match to the Blessed KJB:
    nKJV - 92%
    ASV - 83%
    NIV - 12%

    No, it is all Black and white.
    The NIV that takes the NU view nearly 100%
    is called an evil Modern Version.
    The nKJV that hardly ever takes the NU
    view is called an evil Modern Version.
    Every thing is black and white;
    everything but the unknown KJV is
    white and all other versions are black.
     
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    Ed said "everything but the unknown KJV is white and all other versions are black."

    The cover of Riplinger's first book is black. :D
     
  13. Ed Edwards

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    Hey, what i said
    was a metaphor and you
    done gone and took it LITERAL :D :D :D
     
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