Indications of the Last Times

how many trumpet blasts are there to be?

at which trumpet blast do the dead rise along with those changed to immortality?

 

wopik: "how many trumpet blasts are there to be?"

Each year at the feast of trumpets,
three trumpets are blown:
1. the First Trumpet
2. the Last Trumpet
3. the Great Shofar

In 70AD when the diaspora begain
there were 100s of synagogues.
Now there are thousands world wide.
2,000 years, 1,000 Last trumpets,
that is at least 2,000,000 Last Trumpets.

At one last trumpet at the end of the
Tribulation Period, the Lord will come.

The rapture/resurrection seems to happen
with a loud noise, AS the sound of a trumpet,
AS the voice of an ArchAngel - hello,
don't need an ArchAngel to speak (though
one might be there) don't need a trumpet
(or even 1,000 trumpets) -- it is a noisy
semilie/metaphor.


wopik: "at which trumpet blast do the dead rise along with those changed to immortality?wopik: "

At the last trumpet of the present age,
church age, time of the gentiles, etc.
the rapture will take place RIGHT AFTER
the dead rising (right before the Tribulation
period).

At the last trumpet of the Tribulation
period there will be another trumpet call:
the dead in Christ shall rise first,
the rapture of a few thousand survivers
of the Tribulation Period will take place.

\o/ Glory to the Lord \o/

\o/ Praise be to Jesus \o/

Five Resurrections
Found in the Holy Bible
Compared and Contrasted

The Lord God is a resurrecting God.

Definitions:

New Testament: God's contract on goy
Old Testament: God's contract on Yisrael
Resurrection: a person who was dead is alive
Saint: a person on God's list (AKA: Book of Life)
Tribulation: AKA: The Time of Jacob's Trouble (Jeremiah 30:4-7);
Yisarel passing under the rod (Ezekiel 20:34-3;
Melting Pot (Ezekiel 22:19-22);
Time of Trouble (Daniel 12:1); etc.
Resurrection: a person who was dead is alive

How to get on God's list:

Romans 10:9 (KJV): That if thou
shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt
believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from
the dead, thou shalt be saved.


1. Resurrection of Jesus
WHO: Jesus
WHEN: 33AD
WHERE: Jerusalem
WHY: The Lord God is a resurrecting God.
HOW: The Grace of God through Messiah Jesus
WHAT: Raised to Life Eternal; because of the
resurrection of Jesus, all the other resurrections
are possible
References: Matthew 28:6, Mark 16:6, Luke 24:6-8


2. Resurrection of some Old Testament Saints
WHO: Some of those who died before Jesus believeing God, especially
those who believed in God's Messiah
WHEN: 33AD
WHERE: mostly in Jerusalem
WHY: The Lord God is a resurrecting God.
HOW: The Grace of God through Messiah Jesus
WHAT: Raised to Life Eternal

3. Resurrection of the New Testament Saints
WHO: Church age (AKA: times of the Gentiles) Saints; balance
of the Old Testament Saints
WHEN: Some date after 10 Jan 2004;
at the end of the Church Age; at the beginning of
the Tribulation
WHERE: Worldwide
WHY: The Lord God is a resurrecting God.
HOW: The Grace of God through Messiah Jesus
WHAT: Raised to Life Eternal;
this resurrection is followed in but a
moment by the translation of the living
saints into a glorified heavenly body like
that of Jesus
References: 1 Corinthians 15:52, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

4. Resurrection of the Tribulation Saints
WHO: Those beheaded for faith in Jesus; those
who reject the Mark of the Beast
WHEN: at the end of the Tribulation; at the
beginning of the 1,000-year reign of Jesus
WHERE: worldwide
WHY: The Lord God is a resurrecting God.
HOW: The Grace of God through Messiah Jesus
WHAT: Raised to Life Eternal
References: Revelation 20:4-6,

5. Resurrection of the non-Saints
WHO: All those throughout time who have rejected Jesus
WHEN: At the close of the 1,000-year reign of Jesus;
at the beginning of eternity
WHERE: worldwide
WHY: i don't know, God does
HOW: i don't know, God does
WHAT: Raised to eternal shame & damnation
References: Revelation 20:12-15

NOTE: The delineation of the five revealed
resurrections above
does not preclude other resurrections. The Lord God
is a resurrecting God and His hand is not shortened
by his revelation to us or
by our understaning of His revelation to us.
For example: Two Witnesses shall
be resurrected in the middle of the Tribulation.

There is a pastoral picture of the four resurrections
for which the resurrection of Jesus was a precusor
(numbered here as above):

2. The First Fruits (Matthew 27:22-53)

3. The Harvest (1 Corinthians 15:51-54, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

4. The Gleanings (Revelation 7:14, 20:4)

5. The Tares (Matthew 13:28-30)

Sometimes the Holy Bible calls resurrections 2-4, the resurrections
of the just: The First Resurrection (because all the
resurrections of the just preceede the resurrection
of the unjust).

The following scriptures seem to imply a simultaneous
resurrection of the just and the wicked dead:
Daniel 12:2, John 5:28-29 (all resurrected
in the same hour), Acts 24:15. Revelation 20-4-6
cleary notes that the just are raised before
the unjust.

CAUTION: The numbering scheme 1 to 5 above was arbitrarliy
assigned to enable the discussion. There is nothing
sacred or Biblical about this numbering scheme.

May Jesus our Savior and our Lord be Praised!

Note that ressurrections #2 and #3 are accompanied
by a rapture of living saints.

--compilation by ed, incurable Jesus Phreaque

 

Ed,

Does 1 Cor. 51:52 saying, "FIRST trumpet"?

Secondly, Is the trumpet of Matt 24:31 same as 1 Thess 4:16 & 1 Cor. 15:52?

Thirdly, how many sounds of the trumpet shall be shout for our gathering together?

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

At the last trumpet of the present age,
church age, time of the gentiles, etc.
the rapture will take place RIGHT AFTER
the dead rising (right before the Tribulation
period).

I need to see the chapter and verse for this!


At the last trumpet of the Tribulation
period there will be another trumpet call:
the dead in Christ shall rise first,
the rapture of a few thousand survivers
of the Tribulation Period will take place.

I need to see chapter and verse for this -- verification is needed.

verify, verify, verify

we don't need uncle jimmy's stories or tales of the end time.

only the Bible, please.

 

How many times do i have to show
this before you see it? Seems like i've
shown it here in this thread
or else maybe in this near by thread:

The topic ;you started
Please read the topics you start,
that topic is already in the 17th page
and will probably go into the second
topic of the same name. Please don't
pretend that i've not answered your
alleged questions. I've answered them
and answered them well and convinced
people that i'm a proper student of the
eschatological questions of God
and a fit student of the Holy Bible.
But you still ask the same questions,
make a fool of yourself and your
eschatological position. I therefore
claim full and complete victory in
these debates. But there is a rule i just
can't go around reprinting all my
lists of individual arguments which you
failed to counter (and still claim not to
understand). Come on, it would be alright
to disagree, but you act the fool and pretend

Here is a summary of the differences between
my eschatology and the ones others present
here:
Different meaning of words.

1. The meaning of "first" in Revelation 20:5
2. The meaning of "falling away" in 2 Thess 2:3
3. The meaning of "and" in 2 Thess 2:1
4. The meaning of the first "and" in Matthew 24:30

There is another one, i'll remember what it
is sometime shortly and post it.

 

DeafPosttrib: //Does 1 Cor. 51:52 saying, "FIRST trumpet"?//

It says "last", but you probably don't know
the first think about "last".

DeafPosttrib: //Secondly, Is the trumpet of Matt 24:31 same as 1 Thess 4:16 & 1 Cor. 15:52? //

The trumpet of 1 Thess 4:16 & 1 Cor. 15:52 is
generic and will be used in the two rapture/resurrections
shown in my post above. The trumpet of Matt 24:31
is specific to the rapture/resurrection at
the beginning of the Tribulation Period.

DeafPosttrib: //Thirdly, how many sounds of the trumpet shall be shout for our gathering together?//

My post before you asked the question
shows there will be one sound of the trumpet
for the gathering you will be in, two sounds
of the trumpet for the gathering of all the
saints. The post is complete with scripture.
You have seen it before and never argued it
down.

 

Amen, Brother Johnv -- Preach it!

 

Your position likes to have it both ways. </font>[/QUOTE]Yes. God's way is in
full and living color. Your attempt to make
it all in black and white tends to
tie God's hands. Nobody gets away with
trying to tie God's hands. You better quit.

 

I agree with a portion of your statement. We are to look to Israel and how the world treats this little nation in the end times.Zech 14. But we should also be aware of Paul's words in II Thess chapter 2. Paul said that in the last days there would be an "apostasy". This means a falling away or departure from the truths of God. Corruption will enter into the very church itself.

Also Paul said "that day" or the day of Christ gathering the saints unto himself would NOT occur until "the man of sin" would appear.II Thess 2:verse 1 with verse 3. The Antichrist is the man of sin Paul meant. Despite all the rapture books and predictions out there, Christ will NOT appear until this evil person makes his presence known to the world. The rapture teaching was totally unknown to the Christian church before 1830 and was really promoted by J.N.Darby and popularlized by Scofield. Prior to 1800 the Christian church held to ONE return of Christ and not two returns.

The bible does NOT teach a whisking away of the church prior to the Antichrist's appearance at all. The Protestant reformers never taught it and especially Paul himself. The church WILL endure the tribulation. How long this will be lies in the mind of our heavenly Father. But rest assured Christ will come, not only to deliver his saints.II Thess chapter 1:7 thru 10., but also to destroy the Antichrist as well.II Thess 2:8

 

Ed Edwards --

I can't believe you guys went 17 rounds over the rapture. Let's NOT do it here, too.

That's too much go'round for me to read through.

I don't believe in a pre-second coming of Jesus; it just doesn't sound kosher or biblical.

It's not something the Apostles believed in. They were waiting for Jesus to return and set up His Kingdom on Earth ------- not some secret fly-by, near miss of Mt. of Olives.

"...this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as you have seen him go into heaven". Period. - Acts 1:11.

 

So do you add to the scripture:

"...this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as you have seen him go into heaven". There shall be no other comings of Jesus (it might embarres
some posties). - Acts 1:11.

WE note that you decline
to read the discussion you started.
that disucssion is at:
Rapture Hocus Pocus

End of discussion ed &wopik, Matthew 7:6

 

Welcome, Brother Ronald.
I find it strange you would enter into
page four of the 27th topic on
esschatology here and say things
that have aleardy been demolished.

YBIC, Ed,
Serving Toast Posties
all day, every day

BTW, I never read Darby. I prove the pretribulation rapture/resurrection
from the New Testament. I find it rather
strange that people still say the
early church didn't believe in the pretriublation
rapture/resurreciton when the N.T.
writers wrote of it.

Can you at least humor me and read
my writings in the 17-page long
Hocus Apocus at:

Rapture Hocus Pocus


BTW, I'm hoping to someday find a
worthy postrib opponent here who
builds their own eschatology instead
of trying to tear mine down.

 

Ed

As I stated in my previous post, neither Jesus, Paul nor the Protestant reformers ever taught a pre trib rapture for the church or simply TWO comings of Christ from heaven. Jesus clearly stated his return would be AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS and with all his angels . Matt 24:29-31.. Also Paul when speaking of Christ's return for the saints in Thessolonia said "the gathering" would not occur until THAT DAY. The day or the time the Antichrist appears and later destroyed by THE BRIGHTNESS OF CHRIST'S RETURN . See II Thess 2:verses 1 thru 3 and finally verse 8.

Neither Charles Spurgeon, John Calvin, Albert Barnes,John and Charles Wesley, Adam Clarke ever taught two returns of Jesus from heaven. But only ONE return. This two part return of Christ teaching as I stated started in the 1800's with John Darby and the Plymouth Brethren and took root in C.R.Scofield's Study Bible later on. Before 1800, this false teaching was totally unheard of.

 

Ronald: "Neither Charles Spurgeon, John Calvin, Albert Barnes,John and Charles Wesley, Adam Clarke ever taught two returns of Jesus from heaven."

I studied the New Testament mostly.
I didn't study these guys.

 

Sorry Ed, but you did not come up with the Pre-Mill Dispy position all by yourself reading the NT.

 

Ed,

Before you born, many Christians throughout many centuries ago, they never teaching two phases of the second coming, because that doctrine was not yet exist in their time. They taught one future coming of Christ at the end of the world throughout many centuries till early 19th Century.

I do have Matthew Henry Commentary. He wrote them in year between 1690 to 1710. He believed in only one future coming of Christ at the end of the world.

If you think, you are smarter than them. All of them disagree with your teaching, because they never hear that doctrine before during in their time. I agree with them, not because of their teaching, because of what they believed what the Bible saying. I understand what the Bible saying. Bible does not teaching two phases of the second coming. Two phases of the second coming doctrine was rose out in the late of 19th Century, because of new idea and logical teaching and misintepreting what the Bible actual saying.

I rather follow the Bible than today's doctrine of pretribulational doctrine - Colossians 2:8.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

I was saved in 1952 when an
evangelist came by. The three major
scriptures (from the New Testament, by the
way) i use for a pretribulation rapture
were NOT used then for a pretribulation
rapture.

This means that should you defeat and argue
out my three main pretribultaion rapture
passages, i'll just go back to the other
pretribulation rapture passages.

The main three are:
Matthew 24:31
2 Thess 2:1-3
Revelation 4:1


I see no reason to clutter this topic
with my proof of the pretribulation
rapture which i've posted before.
It is based on these three scriptures.


BTW, i might mention that nobody has
successfully disputed the details
of my pretribualtion doctrine.
But several are good at chanting their
anti-pretribulation raptuare montras.
Get real.

 

IT is very arrogant to assume
you understand the Bible better than i do.

Colossians 2:6-8 (nKJV):

As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord,
so walk in Him,
7 rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith,
as you have been taught, abounding in
it with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy
and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men,
according to the basic principles
of the world, and not according to Christ.

You were taught pretribulation rapture.

I praise God i've been pretrib for
52 years now!

 

I'm back from work.

Let you know, most pretribbers at Baptistboard do NOT agree with you on Matt 24:31. Most pretribbers believe Matt 24:31 speaks of the Jews shall be regathering together, and bring them back to their land - Israel at Christ's coming. Ed, I agree with you on Matt 24:31 speaks of rapture of the church. Yes, you are correct. My question for you, HOW CAN YOU ARE SURE verse 31 saying it is 'pretrib'??? Secondly, you keep on break the hermenuetic rule - interpreting in CONTEXTUALLY. You seperate verse 31 from verse 29-30 all the time. My question is, HOW CAN YOU PROVE verse 31 saying that our gathering together shall be occur BEFORE tribulation??? How do I know that our gathering together shall be after the tribulation, by read with context! Our gathering together shall be AFTER the tribulation - Matt 24:29-30. It is very clear, what Christ saying.

You saying 2 Thess 2:1-3 is the main for pretribulation.

Whist I was myself pretribber before early in my Christian life. One dayin year 1992, I visited my deaf couple's house in Ohio. They asked me to look in 2 Thess. 2:1-3. I said to them, "When I read verses, I am going to sign(ASL- sign language) while read verses same time. I MUST FOLLOW AND AGREE what God's word saying." While I read 2 Thess 2:1-3 as I signs same time to the deaf couple. Verse 3 really hit me so HARD. I was shocked myself, and can't believe what verse 3 saying is so very clear. I was not able to resisting or wrestle against what verse 3saying. I immediately agree and follow what verse 3 saying. 2 Thess 2:1-3 caused me left pretrib camp 12 years ago, because of the truth.

While I was young Christian in year 1992, I understood 2 Thess 2:3 very clear. Let you know, I do not mean to being be boast myself about my reading grade level. I am on 9th grade reading level(understand, deaf people in America are average 4th to 5th grade reading level). If you don't believe me about the fact of deaf people. Ask brumleyj or Askjo. Both are deaf. How does I know that my reading level is 9th grade? Ok, in year 1989, I attend deaf college - National Techincal Institute for the Deaf(NTID) in Rochester, NY. I took reading test. I was little surprised that my result of the test on reading told me, that my reading level is 9th grade.

Now back to 2 Thess 2:3, whilst I was young Christian in year 1992. I read 2 Thess 2:1-3, and I understood it very clear at same time I was shocked. That time, I do not know hermenuetic rule till I took hermenuetic class at bible college in 1997. While I read verse 1 to 3, I understood it very clear. Paul tells us, we do not believe anyone telling us of any teachings or rumours about the timing of Christ's coming. Paul tells us, DAY SHALL NOT COME(our gathering together/day of Christ context with verse 1 and 2) till we must see falling away first. I want to tell you. I did not look at STRONG'S Concordance for 'falling away'. Not even looking at dictionary for 'falling away'. I told deaf couple, that the rapture shall not come till the signs must come to appear to get worser THEN we shall face Antichrist revealed after I looked at 2 Thess 2:1-3 in year 1992.

I never, never return to pretrib camp again since I left them in 1992 to today. Because 2 Thess 2:1-3 is so much CONFLICT with pretribulationism doctrine.

Shortly later after I left pretrib camp, I did research on 'falling away' through Christian Dictionaries and STRONG'S Concordance at the Christian Bookstore. I did looked at comparing at all of them on 'falling away' in Greek Dictionaries. Interesting, 100% of them, saying that word defines, departing from the faith, departing from truth. I am 100% agree with them.

Few months later, I looked at Sword of the Lord book - "Preaching on Second Coming"- Volume. XI in the chapter 13 -'Answering Those Who Teach Great Tribulation comes before Rapture'. I am sure Late Dr. Curtis Hutson edited that chapter 13 discuss on 2 Thess 2:3 matter. Many pastors follow Dr. English Schuyler of his interpreting on 'falling away' of 2 Thess 2:3. He said, 'falling away' means, the departure of the saints is rapture. That why, today many pretrib pastors teaching on verse 3 - 'falling away' is rapture. But, in cases, we know that many pretrib pastors are aware of 'falling away' clearly meaning apostasy. In fact, many pretrib pastors saying 'falling away' is apostasy. Even, Dr. David Cloud saying 'falling away' is apostasy.

After I read in the chapter 13 of 'Great Preaching on The Second Coming', I was so shocked and unbelieveable what they saying on 2 Thess 2:3, because they did not read in the context of 2 Thess 2:1-3 carefully.

Apostle Paul tells us so VERY, very clear, that our gathering together CANNOT BE OCCURED TILL we shall see falling away first.

Ed, you saying you believe 'falling away' is rapture. Then, my question for you, how can you explain, 'DAY shall not come' talk about???

That why pretribulationism doctrine is so CONFLICT what Apostle Paul was actually talk about accord to 2 Thess 2:1-3.

Often pretrib pastors use Rev. 4:1 is the evidence of pretrib rapture.

Whilst shortly after I left pretrib camp in 1992. I did looked at Rev. 4:1 very carefully what it actually saying. I realized verse 1 is NOT talking about rapture or second coming. Verse 1 talks about Apostle John, himself was called up in the spirit as through revelation. Revelation is a supernatural communicate between God and man. John tells us, of his experince in spirit as what he saw in the vision while he wrote book of Revelation. He told us, on Rev. 4:1-2, after this(he heard Jesus' instruction on the seven churches of chapter 2 and 3(notice*** John did NOT saying 'church age is OVER!) Pretribulationism just make-up of "After this" - Rev. 4:1 speak of 'after the Church age'. But, not what John actually saying. Then, John said, he saw another vision, saw three things - angel, door and heaven of verse 1. I know word, 'angel' is not appear in Rev. 4:1, but I strongly believe John did actual saw the angel in this vision of Rev. 4:1. How does I know? I will tell you know why I believe it is angel. John said, he heard the voice sound LIKE AS a trumpet(notice**** pretrib saying of 'trumpet' is refer to 1 Thess 4:16-17 & 1 Cor. 15:52) But, John said, he hear the voice sound LIKE AS a trumpet(same in Rev. 1:10). John heard the voice said to him, "Come up hither, and will show you the future things." I understand what John was talking about. John tells us, in his experince of his vision with the spirit in the revelation. He was called up by the angel, so the angel showed him to see the future things. John said, HIMSELF alone was called up. John does not saying whole church as individuals was called up as 'rapture'. Then, verse 2 tells us, John told us, in his experince of spirit with revelation, that his spirit was taken up into the heaven to meet the angel. Rev. 4:1-2 is NOT talking about rapture, gathering together, Christ ascend, second coming, resurrection, etc. Rev. 4:1-2 talk about John, himself was called up by the angel to show him to see the future things. John does not saying, 'church age is OVER'.

Also, pretrib saying, word- 'church' is not appear from Revelation chapter 4 to 19, prove that the church is gone, not on the earth. Wait a minute.... does John actually saying that church is NOT on the earth??? Secondly, does John saying 'church' is appear UP IN THE HEAVEN????

Why do I believe the angel must be in John's vision of Rev. 4:1? Because, notice word, 'come hither' spoken to John three times - Rev. 4:1; 17:1; and 21:9. Notice Rev. 17:1; and 21:9 both telling us, the 'angel' told John, "come hither". So, no doubt that I strongly believe John must seen angel in the vision of Rev. 4:1.


Conclusion:

You saying, Matt 24:31; 2 Thess 2:1-3; and Rev. 4:1 are the main of pretribulation. If so, telling me and you HAVE TO prove me how do you know Matt 24:31 speaks of our gathering together shall be BEFORE tribulation? Secondly, you saying, 'falling away' is rapture, then, please explain to me, what 'DAY shall not come' talking about? Thirdly, do you see word- "resurrection", "gathering together", "Christ descend", second coming of Rev. 4:1??

Yes, I was taught by pretribulation doctrine in my early Christian life. I thought pretribulationism is the true doctrine. But, till years later, I found more verses in the Bible showed me they are so much conflict with pretribulationism. That why I followed the Bible than men's teaching. Notice, "as ye have been taught" - Col. 2:7. Who's teaching us? Holy Spirit - 1 John 2:27. Of course, we have many bible teachers, pastors. Nothing wrong to have them. I strongly believer we all need good strong fundamental pastors and teachers to teaching the Bible with truths. Today, I already seen so MANY false teachings among churches in America today. I already see so many false teachers out there. How can we are aware and be beware of them? Depend upon the Holy Spirit with our convince, also, you can tell which one is a false teacher, when you look at verses in the Bible is much conflict what the false teacher saying, then you can tell that person is teaching in errors and false, not follow exactly what the Bible.

That why I rather follow what the Bible saying than men's teaching.


In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

Ed said: "BTW, i might mention that nobody has
successfully disputed the details
of my pretribualtion doctrine.
But several are good at chanting their
anti-pretribulation raptuare montras.
Get real."

after that DPT said: "Secondly, you keep on break
the hermenuetic rule - interpreting in CONTEXTUALLY."

This is exactly the montra of which i spake.
I've told DPT how to say that sentence in English,
but he insists on saying it the same as usual.

Again, i interpreted it contextually.

Here is my writing which DPT is trying to dispute:

In Matthew 24:3 the disciples of Jesus
ask three questions:

(in the order asked):
1. When will the Temple be destroyed?
2. What is the sign of His coming?
3. What is the sign of the end of age?

Jesus answers these questions in
Matthew 24:4-44, then follows them with
some parables.

Here are the answers of Jesus in the
order the questions were asked:

1. When will the Temple be destroyed?
Matthew 24:4-14

2. What is the sign of His coming?
Matthew 24:15-30

3. What is the sign of the end of age?
Matthew 24:31-44

Here is a summary of the answers
in the order in which events will occur:

1. When will the Temple be destroyed?
Soon, it was in 70AD

3. What is the sign of the end of age?
No signs preceeding the end of the age

2. What is the sign of His coming?
The Sign of His coming will be the
Tribulation period.

Recall the Greek language in which this
Mount Olivet Discourse (MOD) was written
did not have Microsoft Word to do it with.
So many ands, buts, and other connectors
give the outline. I believe the major
outline to be:

1. When will the Temple be destroyed?
Matthew 24:4-14

2. What is the sign of His coming?
Matthew 24:15-30

3. What is the sign of the end of age?
Matthew 24:31-44

The Gathering in Matthew 24:31 is the
Rapture/resurrection which ends the
current church age (gentile age, age of grace,
last days, etc&gt

Thus Matthew 24:4-14 describes all of the
church age even up to this time.
Matthew 24:4-14 describes the church age.