Infallibility?

While that is incredibly sad, I find your statement almost more sad. Not only do we all make mistakes, nor do we know how we will always react in the fact of scary events such as that, but that the Church would miraculously have the foresight to know how he would react in that situation? Please.

Pray for him; he needs it. That should be your concern.

God bless,

Grant

 

Simply pray for him?
How about try him for his crime, and put him in jail for that which he is guilty for.

 

Simply pray for him?
How about try him for his crime, and put him in jail for that which he is guilty for. </font>[/QUOTE]I resent that remark, and you had no right to respond to me in that fashion. Never once did I insinuate I asked for anything of the contrary? This was not posted about his crime, but was rather an attack on his person, in which I called for us to pray for him rather than call him a "scoundrel," because that is the proper thing to do.

The same report that was given to me as the basis for this post says he is cooperating with authorities, and if he is guilty, he will face the proper punishment.

I don't know what prompted you to make such a demeaning post, or that somehow me asking everyone to pray for him is not proper. How am "I" supposed to try him for his crime? That is out of my control. All I can do is pray.

 

Well it seems that the "church" has the miraculous foresight to make outrageous un-biblical claims like Mary's assumption I figured the absolute infallible magesterium would have the supernatural foresight not to ordain a coward like that, he must have been drunk, else why did he run? </font>[/QUOTE]And now we see the old bait and switch employeed. Thank you for showing a true lack of the sense of the Gospel to me; it is quite clear that this was posted in order to tear down another individual, of whom you do not know and who has not been proven guilty by the court system, and in which you further (MIRACULOUSLY) use to tear down an entire institution.

I guess my prayers are not welcome here; hatred is the order of the day.

I'm done here.

May God bless and forgive the bishop,

Grant

 

No you arent. I am sick and tired of the "church" protecting these animals! The Roman Catholic church is nothing but a religious Mafia! </font>[/QUOTE]And you'll use all the vile tactics in the book to destroy it. Fighting fire with fire; now isn't that holy and righteous?

Of course, that is an amazing statement, considering the diocese and the bishop are both cooperating with authorities. I don't see anything in that article about them protecting him from this crime.

But why did I even bother replying. I have GOT to stop fueling the fire.

May God give me the grace to stop responding,

Grant

 

Isn't this a good example why the Catholics hate Foxes Book of Martyrs. The language employed in the book is a result of the authors absolute distaste for the crimes being committed in the name of the Catholic Church, which in many cases (if not most) were far more horrendous that these.
DHK

 

No you arent. I am sick and tired of the "church" protecting these animals! The Roman Catholic church is nothing but a religious Mafia! </font>[/QUOTE]Oh, how quickly you condemn him!

Have you ever heard of the statement, "Innocent until found guilty"?

Or are you going to relish it in you obvious glee, the possibility that a bishop can actually SIN?

Sir, I simply repeat the words of Jesus: "You who are without sin, cast the first stone."

Let is have a jury decide the guilt or innocense of this sad situation, please............

This whole thread saddens me very much...

Bill+†+

Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not
thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn
away his wrath from him.
Proverbs 24:17-18

 

What a tremendous display of biggotry and hatred is going on here. You are not concerned for anyone's soul. You are the damnable cowards. How many baptists and other protestants covered for people they knew who had white hoods draped over there heads in fron of a burning cross or a burning Church? In the early 1900's there were 6 million members of the KKK if my memory serves me right. They weren't Catholic. How many negro women were RAPED. How many burned homes and Churches and how many went to jail. Who knew of their crimes? Only God knows but you would be neive if you believed many Protestants didn't and didnt cover up for them. You guys have just as much coverup in your past in this country as the Catholic Church has and then some and you know it. How much biggorty has there been toward Catholic men trying to find a job. My brother had a Methodist shoot at him when he went to pick up his daughter for a date not all that long ago. Shall I show you the statistics for fornicating Protestant pastors again. It ain't good.

I'll pray for your rotten hateful minds.

 

It gets old.

 

Psalm, you just don't know when to shut up do you. Wonder if there are any hooded men in your family album.

By the way, my frustration is more with the stupidity of "Christians" such as yourself who have nothing but venom in their every word. Gee. Jesus and John the Baptists saw that in some men also. Your in not so good company.

[ June 17, 2003, 01:13 AM: Message edited by: thessalonian ]

 

The fallibility of infallibility:

Whenever you disagree w/ someone they say "I'm infallible" but when you prove them wrong they say "I'm only infallible when..." - In short, they aren't infallible at all.

 

I think both sides would do well to chill out. Both are making sweeping judgments and accusations that are ludicrous. Not every Baptist is linked with the KKK, and not every priest is a sex offender or killer. I think both sides should chill out.

Neal

P.S. By the way, Thess, if you could find a link or something about the 6 million membership, I would be interested in that. I had no clue it was that big at one time.

 

Some higher up please condemn this thread, lock it, and throw it to the bottom of the Pacific. It has NOTHING to do with discussion of "Other Religions/Doctrines," and is nothing but one big flame.

Please.

God bless,

Grant

 

Give a man a fish...Teach a man to fish....
Go to google.com and put in "6 million members" in quotes AND KKK. "6 million members" AND KKK Most sites say 2-6 millon in the 1920's but the Klan claimed 6 million. Of course it is difficult to tell when men are wearing white hoods how big the number actually was. I only bring up the kkk when such inflamatory gibberish is brought up. I fully realize that not every baptist is a member of the KKK and supported it's activities. There are sinners in all denominations. They just like to point at ours and say "see" while ignoring their own history.

http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:nanGtO8JDNkJ:www2.nobleps.com/eboren/19%2520-%25201920s.doc+kkk+%226+million+members%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


b. Revival of the Ku Klux Klan - embodied rural, fundamentalist concerns politically

(1) Nov 1915 - History teacher Colonel William J. Simmons revived the KKK in a secret meeting near Stone Mountain GA

(2) While still only a local affair in GA and Alabama in 1920, racist Texas dentist, Hiram Evans promoted it into a national organization

(3) It became politically potent in 1922-25 in several Southern and Midwestern states, reporting almost 6 million members at its peak.

 

The problem with the Catholic church is that they do not want to discipline their own clergy.

Please see the action of the Catholic Church about the latest scandal in the Philippines.

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/search_content.asp?article=127251

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2003/jun/17/opinion/20030617opi1.html