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Infant Salvation

Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Jul 30, 2011.

  1. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member

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    Do new born infants have to hear the gospel preached by man and actively repent and believe in order to have salvation? What if they die prior to hearing?
     
  2. Tom Bryant

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    Personally, I believe that infants who die will be in heaven. Maybe that's more from a pastoral viewpoint (shepherding those who have lost children), but I think it's what David had in mind when his baby died (2 Samuel 12).

    But having 2 children and now 1 grandson (4 months), new born infants understand they want to be changed when wet and fed when hungry. So I don't think they understand the Gospel.

    I have talked about Jesus to my grandson. But does he understand? Even as brillliant as he is :tongue3: , I don't think he understands the Gospel.
     
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    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member

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    Are they members of the Covenant? some Calvinists believe that if your born into what they consider as the NEW Covenent of believers they are automatically saved? Personally I think these folks are Jewdesiers (sic)
     
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    The Bible doesn't address it so I don't think we can say for sure 100% what God has to say on the matter. We can come up with some ideas but that's about it. So I'll give you mine.

    God is good. God is just. God is merciful. I believe that if a person is to be saved, He can communicate to them in whatever way possible for them to understand and have faith - even if they are in a coma, a prenate or whatever. If God can get a dead man to hear and raise from the dead, I'm sure getting an infant to understand and be saved is not a big issue for Him. :)
     
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    Maybe they use Rom. 11 :28
     
  6. Tom Bryant

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    Not being a Calvinist, I couldn't speak to that.

    I agree that it specifically says nothing about this. There's nothing too hard for the Lord. If He can save me, He can certainly save anyone.

    Babies certainly have faith. They have faith that their parents will care for them. I'm just thinking out loud here. Maybe they understand that God will care for them. Does that mean saving faith? It certainly doesn't for adults.

    But who knows? God certainly does and, like Ann said, He is Good, just and merciful. I'll commit it to His care.
     
  7. Jim1999

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    In Church of England, baptism covers original sin, hence the infant must be baptized as soon as possible, usually 9th day after birth. The child then makes a decision to believe on Christ for redemption at Confirmation.

    Reformed (Calvinist) Churches practice infant baptism as a promise by parents and godparents to raise that child in Christ. It is acovenant promise and not redemption. The modernist movement has changed that thinking to baptismal regeneration.

    It remains a questionable field, but many have adopted the spurious "age of accountability" to cover children who die before they can confess Jesus as Saviour.

    Personally, I feel that God does provide for children...don't ask for scripture because there are none.

    This is another of those fields with as many viewpoints as there are people. We cannot hang the many viewpoints on any theological system of thought.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  8. preacher4truth

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    I believe the Bible addresses it, and wouldn't discount 2 Samuel 12:23 as revelation of Gods grace toward infants, nor would I fail to see it as "comfort of the Scriptures."

    "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope." Romans 15:4

    - Peace
     
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    also Dort 1:17

    "godly parents ought not to doubt the election and salvation of their children whom it pleases God to call out of this life in their infancy."
     
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